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New.. New 14' Glide.. first pics.

Started by DavidJohn, July 20, 2013, 07:09:14 AM

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DavidJohn


Area 10

Fantastic. It's like Naish have read my mind, so they have clearly listened to feedback from customers and dealers. If you are an ocean paddler in particular, you are surely gonna want to try one of these. If it performs as good as it looks, and if the pricing is similarly competitive as the 2013 range has been for the basic construction models, I reckon they are gonna sell a lot of these. Can't wait to hear the first reports of how it performs in the rough stuff.

Maybe downwind vids where we see DJ fall will become a thing of the past :)

bbqSUPer

Whyyyyyyyyyyyy  ;D

How does the rocker compare to the 2013?

SupStyle


JF808

Wow, looks good! I like this new design.  We can always count on DJ for the latest naish info!  Can't wait for your review.

Curious as to what the price will be.  And that's was the deal breaker for me.  Locally the 2013 14'carbon was $2600.  For downwind I'd rather buy a 14' Bullet for that much.  Want to hear more about this

Rideordie

Drooling badly.  More pics, info and review puhleeeeze!!! What's the price for AST and Carbon.  Weight, width, rails,....how does it compare to the current shape?  When will they be available?? 
2021 SIC RS 14 x 24.5
Naish Glide 14 (v2)
SIC X-14 SCC  
KeNalu Konihi 95 xTuf(s)
KeNalu Mana 90 100 Flex


Rideordie

Thanks!!  I wonder why they went wider to 29 inches wide?  I was happy as a clam at 27.25 inches wide, just wanted a bit more flat water speed.  Changing out the nose and flattening the rocker would speed it up, but hard to believe that would overcome the additional width.  The reviews will be really interesting.  I am sure DJ will give us a good one.  Hey, I blame him for me being a Naish fan anyway!! 
2021 SIC RS 14 x 24.5
Naish Glide 14 (v2)
SIC X-14 SCC  
KeNalu Konihi 95 xTuf(s)
KeNalu Mana 90 100 Flex

Area 10

Quote from: Rideordie on July 20, 2013, 01:48:45 PM
Thanks!!  I wonder why they went wider to 29 inches wide?  I was happy as a clam at 27.25 inches wide, just wanted a bit more flat water speed.

I think in the context of the full range it makes perfect sense. This board will be the 14ft equivalent of the popular wider 12-6 Glide. If you want more flatwater speed or are an advanced downwinder, then get a Javelin instead.

I also think that there will be an increasing separation in design and widths between "ocean flatwater" and "inland flatwater" designs. Ask yourself why Mark Raaphorst (surely the worlds leading ocean-specific SUP race shaper) made his ocean flatwater 14 (X14) 29.5" wide. It certainly isn't because he wants to make slow boards. Often in ocean conditions the dynamics of the moving water mean that ease of handling translates to speed.

Naish are probably also recognising that the larger paddler also needs to be catered for, and that for a lot of people who can only afford one 14, flexibility of use for all conditions and all applications (race, tour, fishing, fitness etc) is a really good selling point.

That's my guess, anyway.

upwinder

Quote from: DavidJohn on July 20, 2013, 07:09:14 AM
Wow..  :-*

DJ

What he said. High time Naish recognised that not everyone is Kai Lenny. A 14' board more like the 12'6 x 30, offering more stability and capable of carrying a larger paddler in a range of conditions has got to be a good thing. Itching to see DJ's when it lands.
In theory, there should be no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is...
Sheldon Brown

Muskoka SUP

Quote from: Area 10 on July 20, 2013, 02:15:04 PM
Quote from: Rideordie on July 20, 2013, 01:48:45 PM
Thanks!!  I wonder why they went wider to 29 inches wide?  I was happy as a clam at 27.25 inches wide, just wanted a bit more flat water speed.

I think in the context of the full range it makes perfect sense. This board will be the 14ft equivalent of the popular wider 12-6 Glide. If you want more flatwater speed or are an advanced downwinder, then get a Javelin instead.

I also think that there will be an increasing separation in design and widths between "ocean flatwater" and "inland flatwater" designs. Ask yourself why Mark Raaphorst (surely the worlds leading ocean-specific SUP race shaper) made his ocean flatwater 14 (X14) 29.5" wide. It certainly isn't because he wants to make slow boards. Often in ocean conditions the dynamics of the moving water mean that ease of handling translates to speed.

Naish are probably also recognising that the larger paddler also needs to be catered for, and that for a lot of people who can only afford one 14, flexibility of use for all conditions and all applications (race, tour, fishing, fitness etc) is a really good selling point.

That's my guess, anyway.

Well maybe they'll also try some middle ground and make a 27" version... Or make an AST version of the Jav or even the super skinny LE Jav.  Not every one wants to fork out a ton of $ for the carbon versions - especially the LE construction that is pretty fragile. 

That said I'm glad Naish has listened to the market and made a board for nastier conditions and bigger taller people.

Guess I'll start saving up for a Jav. 
It ain't over until the fat board sinks....

pdxmike

Thanks, DJ, for the photos, and all the comments here and on seabreeze were interesting.  I hope you get a chance to do a side-by-side review some time, like you did the last time the Glide changed.

The more you learn about boards, the more exciting it is to see the new designs, and how they reveal the thinking behind them--since you can bet that everything about the board was the result of an intentional decision. 

I bet they'll have them at the Naish Hood River race next month.

This board should reassure people who've been worried that board makers' entire focus seems to be making narrow rockets for lightweights with freakish balance,

I was a bit surprised they went wider, but it makes sense.  I could see Naish coming out with a narrower version later, like they did with the Javelin.  It's a bit more polite to make the standard version wide, then offer a narrow version for people who can handle that, vs. making the standard very narrow, then having to come out with a "Fatboy" or "Orca" version for people who can't manage the standard model. 

Rideordie

Yeah, I have both a 14 Javelin and a 14 Glide, but honestly in confused water,and cross wind chop, I can go nearly as fast with much more confidence on the Glide.  I also much prefer the Glide downwind versus the Javelin.  I agree that if the offered a complementary narrow version, say 27 or so, that sounds to me like an ideal board for me in the conditions I ride.  29 just sounds a bit too wide for my taste.  Nice blending of shapes though.  A Glidevelin.  Or is that a Javelide?  Javelide, I think!!     
2021 SIC RS 14 x 24.5
Naish Glide 14 (v2)
SIC X-14 SCC  
KeNalu Konihi 95 xTuf(s)
KeNalu Mana 90 100 Flex

Muskoka SUP

Quote from: Rideordie on July 20, 2013, 04:30:12 PM
Yeah, I have both a 14 Javelin and a 14 Glide, but honestly in confused water,and cross wind chop, I can go nearly as fast with much more confidence on the Glide.  I also much prefer the Glide downwind versus the Javelin.  I agree that if the offered a complementary narrow version, say 27 or so, that sounds to me like an ideal board for me in the conditions I ride.  29 just sounds a bit too wide for my taste.  Nice blending of shapes though.  A Glidevelin.  Or is that a Javelide?  Javelide, I think!!      

Sounds good to me. ;).  I'll take a Javalide as well.  Though I'd like mine to be a mix of the new 29" Glide and the 23" Jav LE.  

It ain't over until the fat board sinks....

Rideordie

Muskoka, if you are really leaning toward a Javelin in AST, you can buy a brand new 2011 14 for $1097 US from California Kiteboarding.  I think that is the same shape that is being produced today in carbon.  Hard to beat that deal.  I could not resist.   ;D 
2021 SIC RS 14 x 24.5
Naish Glide 14 (v2)
SIC X-14 SCC  
KeNalu Konihi 95 xTuf(s)
KeNalu Mana 90 100 Flex