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Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« on: August 10, 2020, 12:38:13 PM »
I had been planning to buy a Supsports Hammer from Wardog as my next upgrade in the next year or two.  He seems to have retired from the business which leaves me looking for a new plan.  I'm 6'1" and about 210 lbs.  I'm looking for a wider board - around 32" - and liked the design of the Hammer a lot.  Volume wise I'd like to keep it over 150L.  I currently ride a 10'5" wide point.  I tried a whopper once down in Mexico and loved it.  I consider myself a beginner to intermediate sup surfer.

What I think I want in a new board is shorter with a bit broader tail.  I find the wide point 'locks in' to a path and, at least for me, it's hard to get far enough back to get it to turn fast enough.  Whether that's board or rider is another question, I guess.

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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2020, 01:55:49 PM »
If you liked the Hammer, try a JL Destroyer.  The JL is a much better all around surf board. I've had a couple Hammers.

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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2020, 04:35:17 AM »
+1 on the Destroyer. I would choose that over the Hammer any day. Jimmy has some great shapes.
Jimmy Lewis Super Frank  7'6 X 31"  115L
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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2020, 09:55:53 AM »
Hey Miker

I have the 9’8″ X 31.75 X 160 liter Destroyer and love it. I feel like I don’t ever have to look for another board ... which is saying something for me : )

I chose the 9’8 because of personal preference for cruise-y style riding. But there is also a 9’3 X 31.5 X 160L. Btw I’m 5’8 185 lbs.

Another option is a Blue Planet Turbo, at 9’10 X 33 X 161L. It has a rounded pin. I have its little brother Fun Stick at 9’4 X 33 X 140L. I’d recommend that but it’s below your volume preference. The Turbo is super stable but turns. I’ve never surfed the 10’5 Widepoint, but suspect its being slow to turn is mostly due to length.

Then there’s always the 9’5 Whopper ‘Junior’ (33” X 166L). A well respected board that will for sure turn more from the middle than your WP.

And if you really like th flat Simmons tail, check out L41’s shapes, like the PopDart and Bruce Wayne

http://www.l41surfcraft.com/models-sup
« Last Edit: August 23, 2020, 10:15:49 AM by Dusk Patrol »
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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2020, 12:22:10 PM »
Hey Miker

I have the 98″ X 31.75 X 160 liter Destroyer and love it. I feel like I dont ever have to look for another board ... which is saying something for me : )

I chose the 98 because of personal preference for cruise-y style riding. But there is also a 93 X 31.5 X 160L. Btw Im 58 185 lbs.

Another option is a Blue Planet Turbo, at 910 X 33 X 161L. It has a rounded pin. I have its little brother Fun Stick at 94 X 33 X 140L. Id recommend that but its below your volume preference. The Turbo is super stable but turns. Ive never surfed the 105 Widepoint, but suspect its being slow to turn is mostly due to length.

Then theres always the 95 Whopper Junior (33 X 166L). A well respected board that will for sure turn more from the middle than your WP.

And if you really like th flat Simmons tail, check out L41s shapes, like the PopDart and Bruce Wayne

http://www.l41surfcraft.com/models-sup

+1 on the L41. Short with wide tails and they just rip. My favorite. Here's a video of me on my first time out on my 8'8 x 32 146 l  L41 ST. I kept out running the wave because the wide tails are so much faster that a board with a pulled in tail. They feel more like a skim board. You push on the tail to control your speed, and they accelerate. A few sessions later and I figured out that I have to cut back to control my speed. The board is very lively, skatey, and loose. 100% stoke for me.
https://youtu.be/qirZCIlPGVw

 
« Last Edit: August 23, 2020, 12:37:48 PM by TallDude »
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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2020, 01:29:41 PM »
+1 on the Destroyer. I would choose that over the Hammer any day. Jimmy has some great shapes.

Another vote for the Destroyer. I had the Supsports Stoke and now ride the Destroyer as one of my primary boards. Destroyer is in a different class - both shape and construction wise.

I am 64 and 240 pounds and ride the 85 Destroyer. Super fun, super stable.

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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2020, 06:20:18 PM »
I own a few different Hammers (95 x 33 and a 9'0" x 32") and a L41 that is 93 x 33.

The Hammer is a fast and super stable board being thick with a very flat deck. With stepped rails, the L41 might not be as stable, but it is the fastest and loosest stand up board that Ive ever owned.

I still own both and will take the Hammer out if the wind is up, but the L41 is more skatey with a race car feeling.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2020, 06:24:15 PM by southwesterly »

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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2020, 07:48:40 PM »
Southwest, I was thinking the same thing. I liked Wardog boards, though they were never my favorites. I also have an L41 and it's such a different board from any of the other boards mentioned here. Very fast, very loose, a little hard to control but in a fast or pitching wave it would always be my first choice. But stability is not the strong suit and the sweet spot for just standing on the board and paddling it is ridiculously tine.
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2020, 06:01:42 PM »
Oops, meant "tiny" not tine.

This is what I did with my Wardog board. No reflection on the board other than the fact that it was the prettiest SUP I have in my collection, so perfect for a shower backsplash.

Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2020, 07:18:58 PM »
Nice touch with the Shark Bite fittings. Almost looks like a manufactured fixture, but way better. The sweat connections on the shower curtain is a more structural way to go for sure. Nicely done. I did notice the board too.
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8'8" L-41 ST and a whole pile of boards I rarely use.

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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2020, 09:00:22 PM »
I need to redo the shower curtain rod. It's a bit flimsy. I'm thinking something trellised, like a Ducati frame.
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2020, 11:01:39 AM »
I suggest...  a ducati frame.... (or two)

But seriously, what fin set up are you running? 
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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2020, 11:03:45 AM »
TD's video makes me want to move to SoCal... nice!
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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2020, 11:24:40 AM »
It's been like that for the past week now. I've been surfing dawn patrol almost every morning. It's been glassy and the water was 78 deg yesterday. I'm very fortunate to live where I do. I grew up here but I definitely appreciate it more now than ever.
It's not overhead to me!
8'8" L-41 ST and a whole pile of boards I rarely use.

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Re: Anything out there similar to the Hammer?
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2020, 07:43:44 PM »
My L41 has very similar specs though it's a custom. 8'8" X 31. the tail is different--it's square, and currently  has both a Tuttle and tracks for foils cut into the bottom, but I won't be foiling on it anymore, might as well surf it. It's one of the few boards I've ever used that felt about as fast as a foil board. At Rincon I went from the indicator to the cove and beyond, one wave. I've never even come close to that with other boards.
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

 


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