SUP Surfing Outlawed in New Jersy Surf Zones

[DurhamSUP]

I guess I can add one more thing to my list of why moving from NJ to NC was a good idea.
I do feel for you folks that are there and have to put up with this crap. Come on down to NC, the pizza sucks, but the water and weather are great.

From a lifeguard's point, I guess it is hard to draw the line between those that can handle a sup and some fist pumping Benny that rented a SUP and is looking to cause chaos. It's just easier to ban the SUP.

It sucks when a regulation is implemented based on ease of implementation and not common sense.

[newton333]

ya  what town in lbi does this affect?  half of the  sup surfing contests this year are held there. 

[Cardiff Sweeper]

[JeanG]

This is why god invented lawsuits.

[pdxmike]

Rules often don't make sense when they hit the real world:

[Cardiff Sweeper]

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Yes.  Law must define either specific dimensions of SUP boards that aren't permitted, or use of paddle.

I see kids all the time in the summer goofing around on their longboards by seeing how long they can stand on them.

[sup_surf_giant]

I was flatwater paddling in San Clemente with a newb friend.

On our return trip, we passed the black balled zone and entered the SURF ONLY zone.

We paddled on a bit to where there was no humans in the water for at least 50' north (where there were swimmers) and 300 yards south.

We paddled south to the empty spot and I told my buddy to paddle prone in. He did so blindly and as I yelled for him to look behind him, as wave scooped him up and dumped him.

Thankfully, he was well clear of the swimmers and presented no prob.

I waited, paddled for 1 wave, but surfed out of it bcs it walled.

I took the next waist high wave, surfed it to the beach, jumped off to my feet in shin deep water.

Lifeguard RUNS out of his booth and runs to ME like there's a fire.

"You aren't allowed to surf the board in."

"I'm in the surf zone"

"But you can't surf the SUP in."

"Why not?"

"Because it's dangerous. You have to paddle prone in."

"My buddy did that and wrecked. I surfed in with no prob. What is your goal here? So, this ISN'T the surf zone?

A few more pointless explanations and I had to walk away.

No logic at a times.

I realize that there's alot of newbie SUP idiots who act recklessly...but it doesn't seem these rules help much since they don't address surfers who don't use leashes, etc.

[Cardiff Sweeper]

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If its dangerous, then NOBODY should be doing it. This includes Sup-surfing with other Sup-surfers.  We'd be a danger to ourselves if it is truly "DANGEROUS".

[trashinwb]

@Bean: I thought the SUS beach in Spring Lake was in front of the Breakers.... Now it's Pier Beach? There have been a few heated confrontations from what I've  been told on the north end. Where I SUS one block north, but in a different town, we joke about telling "Glider" to put his leash on before he kills some one. Well, I half joke and tell him to go put one on before he fucking ruins it for everyone.

[Bean]

In front of the breakers AKA kayak beach, the LG said launch only (but he wasn't 100% sure). I'm only surfing SL at off hours for now.

Stay on top of daGlider, guys like that do ruin-it for everyone else.

[supthecreek]

Why is glider any different or more "dangerous" than any longboarder that is going "retro" leashless?

I don't want to hijack this thread because it is dealing with a specific locality, but this whole issue and resigned acceptance of it are pissing me off. We have history on our side. Anyone that is a student of surf history, could easily layout a defense to repeal these "rules" and show how arbitrary and ill conceived they are.

Look for my thread... here's a teaser:

"Classic Longboards - Longboards are the original, and very first variety of board used in standup surfing. Ever since the sixth-century the ancient Hawaiians have used 8-to-24-foot (2.4 to 7.3 m) solid wooden boards when practicing their ancient art of he'e nalu. Surfing was brought to the Hawaiian Islands by Polynesians and has since become popular worldwide. The ancient boards were carved and fashioned out of solid wood, reaching lengths of 10 to 14 feet (3.0 to 4.3 m) long and weighing as much as 150 pounds (68 kg). Both men and women, royalty and commoners surfed. But the longest of boards (the Olo) was reserved for royalty."

Apparently the NJ surfing "rules" have been written accepting only a short period of surfboard evolution as the "Appropriate" size and use.... it all bullshit and should be fought tooth and nail.

Sue the individual who wrote the rule... they will shrink back into their cubicle.

[Bean]

Why is glider any different or more "dangerous" than any longboarder that is going "retro" leashless?

He is only dangerous because his actions project a negative image of the SUP community at large. 

[trashinwb]

He (Glider) surfs pretty well. He blames the leash for an injury he got last summer. He frequently surfa waves past the flag that designates the area we are confined to into an area heavily populated by swimmers. This draws the ire of protective parents and the lifeguards who have to hear it from them. The guards manage it, I manage it. He knows he should just wear the damn thing during guarded hours and months.

[newton333]

i never  have any problems when i go down that way.

[SUPlime]

We are getting along fine here in Ventnor NJ (Ventnor Pier) Prone surfers, Fishermen and SUP's If it gets crowded we can go to our designated area (fine spot a few yards north of the Pier) We (SUS) migrate that way any way we get longer rides and leave the pier for proners (short steep waves into the pier & fishermans hooks)

All good here on Absecon Island (and Ocean City for that matter)

JimK
www.extremewindsurfing

Not sure if that's entirely correct. Ventnor reluctantly allowed SUP at one beach in the city-the pier. There are 8 surf beaches, 3 kayak beaches, and over a dozen swimming areas. For those that live in Ventnor and SUP, it's a pain the &$* to have to go to the pier instead of walking down to your closest surf beach and going out. The commissioners originally were not going to allow SUP at all, but relented under pressure. (One commissioner is a pretty good proner)