Shoulder Pain

[DavidJohn]

Scotty....I've been through some shoulder problems and will do anything to avoid surgery.

After you've given your shoulder a good rest...You might consider getting one of these..

They are sold to hospitals and physiotherapists to use with patients with shoulder problems.

They build shoulder strength by working both muscles and tendons with very little actual shoulder movement...Just a thought.

DJ

[Scotty Mac]

Hey DJ,
Thanks but I cant see any picture. What is it?

[DavidJohn]

Hey DJ,
Thanks but I cant see any picture. What is it?

Your computer must be blocking youtube or something..when you get a chance watch that vid on another computer.

Or Google Bodyblade... http://www.bodyblade.com/

DJ

[climbbikesurf]

Hey DJ,
Thanks but I cant see any picture. What is it?

Your computer must be blocking youtube or something..when you get a chance watch that vid on another computer.

Or Google Bodyblade... http://www.bodyblade.com/

DJ

I agree with DJ, the bodyblade did wonders for my shoulders.  I blew out my rotator cuff muscles a couple of years ago while rock climbing.  I started out barely being able to handle the bodyblade and not being able to lift my arms higher than my chest to climbing again about 2 months later. 

Yoga helped get my full range of motion back too.

Mike

[Scotty Mac]

Thanks Mike,
Which bodyblade do you have and whats your weight? At $300 plus for the pro model and the number of ab dudes on the web sites it seems a bit sus?
Thanks again,
Scott

[climbbikesurf]

Thanks Mike,
Which bodyblade do you have and whats your weight? At $300 plus for the pro model and the number of ab dudes on the web sites it seems a bit sus?
Thanks again,
Scott

Scott,

I have the bodyblade pro and I weigh 150 pounds.  Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't get the pro again since I use it when I'm rehabing my shoulder or when it feels tweaked.  In other words, when my shoulder are weak as hell, I really don't need much resistance at all (which sounds like you're in that situation).  Now I would go for the classic and save yourself $50.  If you are like me and only use it when your shoulders are weak, the classic would work great.  You also don't need to get 2 of them, I only have one and switch hands.  I think the infomercials use 2 since they are designed for a workout and not rehab.

I don't think how much you weigh makes a difference on which model to get since it all depends on how weak your shoulders are.  Mine were so jacked up when I bought it that I was barely about to vibrate it.

As for the guys with the abs, I don't have that but I don't use the bodyblade as a workout device, just as a great rehab tool.  I do have to say that after my bodyblade sessions, it is a good core workout.

The other thing that helped was yoga and specifically the "downward dog" position.  It took at least a month or so to break all the scar tissue and gain back my full range of motion.

Now that you have me talking about this, I'm going to break out the bodyblade again and make sure to do some preventative exercises.

Good luck.

Mike

[Scotty Mac]

Thanks for the advice Mike,
I am 195 lbs. Do you still recommend the classic?
Regards,
Scott

[climbbikesurf]

Thanks for the advice Mike,
I am 195 lbs. Do you still recommend the classic?
Regards,
Scott

Scott,

If you're going to be using it for rehab and sporatically afterwards, then yes I think the classic would work for you.  If you are going to keep using this regularly after your shoulder is back to full strength, then I would get the pro.  For me, after my shoulder was back to normal I didn't do it anymore even though I know all the benefits since I'm not real good at maintaining an exercise routine.  All my sports are based on playing.

Mike

[stoneaxe]

I'd bet you could get the same benefit from a simple homemade version of this. $300 for a piece of fiberglass with weighted ends seems a bit much. Cut a strip of 1/4" ply 2" wide x 4' long, wrap the center with tape for a handle and the ends with some weight and more tape....voila...homemade for about $10. Vary the length and or weight to suit. You could probably make a 1/2 dozen of varying lengths and weights for $30.

[climbbikesurf]

I'd bet you could get the same benefit from a simple homemade version of this. $300 for a piece of fiberglass with weighted ends seems a bit much. Cut a strip of 1/4" ply 2" wide x 4' long, wrap the center with tape for a handle and the ends with some weight and more tape....voila...homemade for about $10. Vary the length and or weight to suit. You could probably make a 1/2 dozen of varying lengths and weights for $30.

There is definitely a much cheaper DIY way for this as you said.  I've heard of people using an old ski that they hacksawed down to length.  I think the $300 listed was assuming 2 of the pro model.  For the classic, it is $100.  Still more than the plywood method but I think the difference is in the flex.  When I get mine going at full rate, the ends move over 12-inches each way.  With plywood, I'd be a bit leary in going that much BUT if this is only used for rehab, your shoulder wouldn't be able to generate that much full force anyway.

[DavidJohn]

Thanks for the advice Mike,
I am 195 lbs. Do you still recommend the classic?
Regards,
Scott

Scott when I bought mine I was a bit shocked by the high price down under and went with the classic because it's cheaper they didn't have the pro..and they suggested the classic anyway.

They rang me a couple of days after and said that "they now had a free bag for mine if I would like to pop in and pick it up..and btw..we now have the Pro in stock if I would like to try it".

I said..Isn't it too late now I have bought the classic and they said if I chose to swap and pay the difference that's ok...Anyway..I tried the Pro and loved it..It's so much bigger and beefier..and being a big guy myself it felt much better...btw I wanted it more for strength building than rehab.

I now have the pro..expencive..yes..but so is most gym equipment..and also medical and doctors bills...It's easy for people to think these are like those late night infomercials and gimmick ab trainers..but it's not.

I'm sure you would have no problem selling it after if you want to...and like climbbikesuf said..the classic is probably the best way to go for rehab purpose.

DJ

[Scotty Mac]

Thank DJ and Mike, I will check it out.

[photosettle]

I'm actually thinking i may have some shoulder pain from the lower hand pulling the paddle rather than the top hand pushing the paddle.  I'm actually not sure if it is caused from when my hand is on top or when it is on bottom but i'm suspicious that it is being caused by pulling.  anyone have this problem and/or any solutions.

[Scotty Mac]

That's an old post you have added to, not sure I can help you with the question you asked because I have not been SUP recently. I acually sorted my shoulder injury by taking a 10 week rest and starting up again gradually. I found one particular stretch most helpful. Funny enough last weekend I surfed about 5 hours and my non - injured side pulled up sore. So now I have started stretching that one out....

[1paddle2paddle]

I'm actually thinking i may have some shoulder pain from the lower hand pulling the paddle rather than the top hand pushing the paddle.  I'm actually not sure if it is caused from when my hand is on top or when it is on bottom but i'm suspicious that it is being caused by pulling.  anyone have this problem and/or any solutions.

Its hard to say whether the pulling or pushing is the true culprit, my guess would be that the pulling would be harder on the shoulder because the pulling force would work to pull the shoulder out of its socket, versus the pushing force which would tend to compress the shoulder into the socket.

My non-medical opinion, learned by suffering (or "working through") continual shoulder issues starting after a motorcycle accident 20+ years ago, is that shoulder problems can be caused by a lot of issues, especially like bursitis or a partial tear of the rotator cuff which you might not even be aware of.  Both of which I had and was able to keep going for many years, until my biceps tendon finally broke and I went in and had the surgery.

The strengthening exercises discussed above are good practice for anyone who uses their shoulder in a repetitive motion exercise (like paddling).  What I was instructed by my physical therapists in my latest PT after my shoulder surgery in February was to focus on preventing my shoulder from coming out of the socket, which can occur by over-reaching my stroke.  I posted in another thread about the "power U" technique to keep the power coming from the core, and reducing the torque on the shoulders.  I would think this should help reduce shoulder strain.