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Late take off

Started by Paddle-Plappe, December 27, 2007, 01:35:37 PM

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srfnff

My insights for what they're worth...paddle as parallel with the wave as you can and still catch it. With all the volume you've got if you don't broach you'll drop in semi-sideways. Set and hold the inside rail and take the high line, you almost have no other choice. Unless you have a lot of rocker the long, thick Sups don't easily fit into the curve of the wave face. If your nose is pointed down towards the trough, and not angled more along the wave face (still penetrating the upward flow of the water though) you'll pearl, nosedive, whatever. Once you make the initial drop/section you'll have more room to move.

Practice! You'll never know if you could have made that drop if you don't try. (Sucking, dry reef ledges excluded of course!)

HaleiwaBill

As has already been said, getting in early with speed is always best. Late take offs are usually end in a "yard sale" but today I made progress with them. I leaned more forward than I had in the past and what helped most was changing from parallel stance to my surf stance. I felt much more comfortable that way and made a couple late drops I would not have before.

1tuberider

Yes Bill you need to switch to a surfing stance as soon as you feel the drop.  Moving forward may help with the drop but if you find the nose pearling, you will need to shift weight back to pull nose out.  I prefer to shift the weight back so I can find the sweet spot for turning.  Once the turn is completed you should have a face to work with.

When the nose dives you have a split second to pull it out.  This is an instinct move, otherwise you are to late and will pitch pole. 

Also your paddle can be used for stability on a steep drop.  Just stick the paddle in the water and use it to help support you.

Of course I am talking about doing this in smaller waves.  Work your way up the skill ladder before you do this in surf of size.


srfnff

Blane posted a nice video today that serves as a great illustration of, perhaps not a real late take off, but foot placement on take off. On all the waves Blane catches, his feet are in the surfing stance while he is paddling, then catching and riding the wave. Great video and very informative.



http://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=822.0

HaleiwaBill

Thanks 1tuberider-I agree "pearling" is an issue if you lean forward TOO much. Thankfully as you mentioned my "surf instincts" take over at that point and so far that has not been a problem.

It is interesting which aspects of SUP surfing are more or less difficult to learn depending on our waterman back grounds. Surfers need to learn the paddling aspects and have no problem ON the wave and those with outrigger/kayak backgrounds have to learn the surfing nuances. Seems to those with BOTH backgrounds have fastest learning curve and those with neither have the longest.


Admin


Paddle-Plappe

Quote from: Admin on February 06, 2008, 09:24:22 AM
Does this count?
This is technique but for "atomization" category, this is not a late take off. :D

HaleiwaBill

Quote from: Admin on February 06, 2008, 09:24:22 AM
Does this count?



LOL!!...............yea, something like dat!

Paddle-Plappe

Another good technique:


But it was really too late:


Paddle-Plappe


hawaiian.style

I guess you can add the picture of Ikaika Kalama that Blane posted here:
http://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=3166.0

cool & calm on a gnarly drop.

Pierre

 fully agree: wide foot stance as much as possible on the tail ( front foot for trim while paddling then back foot for weight on the tail during drop), some angle in the face ,paddle as a third leg, speed: it helps a lot!

Not so easy on a long SUP, but since I changed from 12' to 9' it's easier! of course I do not (yet) get the skill of Ikaila! thanks to all for sharing experience...
\HF/- Hi-Fun Hydroworks / custom boards,BZH, since 1982  /  *Link Removed*

Tom


Paddle-Plappe

Quote from: hawaiian.style on February 11, 2009, 02:54:02 PM
I guess you can add the picture of Ikaika Kalama that Blane posted here:
http://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=3166.0
cool & calm on a gnarly drop.
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