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Danny Ching reveals his training secrets

Started by blueplanetsurf, May 11, 2011, 11:15:57 PM

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sbsup11

I love this thread! Danny absolutely cracked me up with that one! Fun to see the Ben Crane video too.

blueplanetsurf

Seeing two top athletes using almost identical training methods convinced me: this is good stuff.  I'm going to get me some of those snake noodles and bosu balls.
Train harder, not smarter, I like it!
Robert Stehlik
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CMC

What a coincidence that Danny and a golfer train the same way. ;D

It really must be the key to success.

pdxmike

Golf and paddling are pretty much identical when you think about it.  The basic idea is to stand in one spot and swing a stick around.   You try to see how far you can get in the fewest strokes.  The smooth part of the course is easier than the rough part.  You don't want guys slowing down in front of you or running up on your tail.  You can spend a lot of $$$ trying to improve through better equipment, often made of expensive lightweight material.  It's easier if the wind is at your back.  Many people in both wear weird clothes, especially pants with loud patterns.  If you screw up, you end up in the sand.

BossManD


dalidali

I am sorry to post this after all the accolades, but with all due respect to Danny, as someone who's been coaching paddlesports for 40 yrs and is specialized on strength training, I can't see any serious value in that kind of random, inconsistent and disorganized activity other than perhaps stress trelease, Danny looks like a kid with ADD let loose in a MacDonald Playroom.
If this is what he does for strength fitness, agility and proriception then he achieves despite of it and not as a result of it.

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Quote from: dalidali on May 14, 2011, 07:58:35 AM
I am sorry to post this after all the accolades, but with all due respect to Danny, as someone who's been coaching paddlesports for 40 yrs and is specialized on strength training, I can't see any serious value in that kind of random, inconsistent and disorganized activity other than perhaps stress trelease, Danny looks like a kid with ADD let loose in a MacDonald Playroom.
If this is what he does for strength fitness, agility and proriception then he achieves despite of it and not as a result of it.

I strongly disgree with that.  disorganized activity like this is the key to physical strength and mental acuity.  

I know it might seem counterintuitive, but: obtuse=sharp, random=fitness, dryness=sarcasm.

Be Vita Water My Friend

dalidali

I am not saying that once in a while, playing around like this has no point - it can be stress relief, active recovery from hard work. The basis of athletic excellence is still in planned, structured and systematic training. Behind every succesful athlete, there is a huge amount of serious work based on a comprehensive training plan. It is 90% perspiration and 10% inspiration as Councilman, the best swim coach of all times said.
If the title to this vide was "this is how Danny takes a break from serious training (which he must do and which is the basis of his success!) instead of "Danny reveals his training secrets" I would not have made the above comment.
But you are fooling yourself if you think that in today's competitive world in every sport you can achieve excellence by throwing yourself on exercise balls and swinging around a piece of foam. Danny has thousands of miles of kayaking, outriggering, sup-ng and a tremendous amount of strength training behind him. Emulate him in that first, then you can afford to horse around for fun.

Admin

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Again, I must strongly disagree.

Time squandered on "serious" training is time well wasted.  Truly, you can not slack enough.  The best guys barely prepare.  Don't get me wrong, they feign arduous workouts and pay lip service to hours of training and brutal regimens, but this is just to set the other guys on a grouse hunt.  I happen to know 2 top guys who won't even swing their arms when they walk for fear of "overdoing it".  When these guys do work out, it is nothing you would recognize.  One became heavily involved in Wherling Dervish movements for a month until he found that his practice had become too organized.

Free your mind, Your (ripped) body will follow.


Pureadrenalin

Quote from: dalidali on May 14, 2011, 07:58:35 AM
I am sorry to post this after all the accolades, but with all due respect to Danny, as someone who's been coaching paddlesports for 40 yrs and is specialized on strength training, I can't see any serious value in that kind of random, inconsistent and disorganized activity other than perhaps stress trelease, Danny looks like a kid with ADD let loose in a MacDonald Playroom.
If this is what he does for strength fitness, agility and proriception then he achieves despite of it and not as a result of it.

Come on man its a fuckin joke. Danny is in more  better shape than 80 percent of most personal trainers. You not fooling nobody. Most personal trainers don't even practice what they preach and they look like shit come on be real. I been training for over 20 years and most personal trainers cant even do a set of 10 pushups or even 10 pullups. BE REAL!

dalidali

ok son, watch your language first! There is no room in this forum for foul language! Danny is in better shape than you are and kicks the asses of dudes coming from a surfer background, because he has been working with top kayak coaches for many years. He has done thoudands of miles of interval training where his eyes were popping out after each interval and his HR hardly dropped ten BP when his coach ordered him back to another. He did periodized strength training that included the most strenuous circuit training. He did thousands of hours of technical training where his coach analyzed every fraction of his kinetic chain and corrected every little deviation from what is called perfect technique.
As I said before, and as Councilman, the top swim coaches of all times said, high level athletic training is 90% perspiration and 10% inspiration.
If Danny makes you belive that the foundation, the base for his success is the horsing that he does on the video, he will laugh all the way to the victory podiumk for a long time.
Your generalisation about coaches and trainers is ridiculous.
I wish we could meet one day and compare how many chins ups and puish ups and crinces you do in a minute and I do (and I am 64). Don't invite your girlfriend, because after that she might dump you.

Pureadrenalin

Quote from: dalidali on May 14, 2011, 10:47:12 AM
ok son, watch your language first! There is no room in this forum for foul language! Danny is in better shape than you are and kicks the asses of dudes coming from a surfer background, because he has been working with top kayak coaches for many years. He has done thoudands of miles of interval training where his eyes were popping out after each interval and his HR hardly dropped ten BP when his coach ordered him back to another. He did periodized strength training that included the most strenuous circuit training. He did thousands of hours of technical training where his coach analyzed every fraction of his kinetic chain and corrected every little deviation from what is called perfect technique.
As I said before, and as Councilman, the top swim coaches of all times said, high level athletic training is 90% perspiration and 10% inspiration.
If Danny makes you belive that the foundation, the base for his success is the horsing that he does on the video, he will laugh all the way to the victory podiumk for a long time.
Your generalisation about coaches and trainers is ridiculous.
I wish we could meet one day and compare how many chins ups and puish ups and crinces you do in a minute and I do (and I am 64). Don't invite your girlfriend, because after that she might dump you.


BRA anytime any place I welcome you. Bring your girlfriend cause she might not go home with you. lmao.

dalidali

Talk is cheap buddy.
Give me a list of your achievements.
How many worlds you won?
How many top athletes you coached?
Are you a recognized expert in any athletic activity?
Have you published peer reviewed articles in professional journals?
If you can give one single positive answer to any of the above questions, I take my hat off.

Pureadrenalin

Quote from: dalidali on May 14, 2011, 11:04:47 AM
Talk is cheap buddy.
Give me a list of your achievements.
How many worlds you won?
How many top athletes you coached?
Are you a recognized expert in any athletic activity?
Have you published peer reviewed articles in professional journals?
If you can give one single positive answer to any of the above questions, I take my hat off.


I not trying to get you to TAKE your hat off for me I don't give a flying shit about you and more power to you with all what you accomplish on paper. You just don't get the original post its a joke sometimes you just gotta have some fun. NO STRESS JUST PRESS relax breathe,breathe,breathe and repeat.

dalidali

Buddy, you are getting so excited that you are the one who is not getting it. What I am saying from the beginning is that what Danny does here might be an excellent release, a diversion from hard training, but not the foundation, the base on which his success as an athlete is built.
One just can't bypass, skip and avoid hard work on his or her way to athletic success.
I also add that hard work can also be fun, even it is a different fun from horsing around. It is fun and joy to feel one's strength, one's ability to perform, endure and go through the trials of strenuous training. You read the memoirs of top athletes like Lance Armstrong, or Michael Phelps and you are in awe of their ability to overcome pain and exhaustion and their capacity to enjoy superhuman effort.
There is no human endeavour, no pursuing of goals that can bypass dedication to hard work and persistance. You can dismiss its paramount importance, but it still remains the foundation of all other aspects of athletic training.