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Yet another new board thread
« on: September 11, 2023, 08:11:45 AM »
Apologies in advance.

Keeping the question relatively simple I'm currently using a Loco Aztec 8' 7" X 31" as my wave board. Not a familiar brand to many on here but the board is of a similar ilk / style to a Starboard Hypernut. Squarish outline, pulled in rails, similar bottom shaping including a channel.

It's been a bit of a game changer for me. Stability is excellent but it also picks up waves easily, even small stuff which is what I end up surfing most often. Still loads to learn and I'll continue to use that board.

Limiting my questions to the stupid end of the scale is there any other board out there that's a little different but shares similar characteristics with regards to stability and the ease in which the Hypernut style of boards pick up waves?

I don't to replace the existing board, I'd like to compliment it and allow my little lad to use it and grow with it but also offer me something different. Anything and everything is too big for him now (he's only 9 years old) but I give him a shove onto small waves and we can play on some flat water etc.

We generally only get small surf (small UK stuff where 2' can be a good day) hence the small wave performance. Probably round the 2' mark can be a good day if the wind behaves.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2023, 08:51:23 AM by Noo Noo »

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Re: Yet another new board thread
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2023, 10:35:02 AM »
Look at the Jimmy Lewis Super Frank. It's designed for thrashing around in small waves, but can surf larger waves easily.  The "wide" versions may be better for the 2'.   It's not the hypernut shape, so meets your 'different' criteria.   Or add a longboard to the quiver!
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Re: Yet another new board thread
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2023, 11:51:24 AM »
Thanks. Yes it's been an option I've been thinking about but I'm suffering from paralysis by analysis to be honest. Little chance of demos either which is frustrating.

So far my mini list includes (no particular order)
JL super frank
JL striker
Sunova revolution
Smik hipster twin
Infiniti RNB
Gong Mob

I've no idea how they stack against each or how they will work for me in our typical rubbish conditions . Took me a little while and a couple of boards to get to the Loco and kind of nervous of making the same mistake.

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Re: Yet another new board thread
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2023, 11:55:21 AM »
Fat fingers. Managed jtonquote myself somehow
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Re: Yet another new board thread
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2023, 02:42:39 PM »
Is there a predominant board type that works at your local spot? Meaning are longboards the concensus? or other? People loved the Striker but in clean surf... to minimize pearling, it being so flat.  The Smik is also in the longboard world.    The RNB and Gong are def different...more Simmons shaped, which are notoriously fast, and you may not want that. You may want to hang out and turn more than they allow. 

Hey the journey is half the fun. As long as the boards you buy have decent resale value, you're good. And your list is good that way.
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2023, 04:59:35 PM »
L41! No need to look any where else. 5 different models all based of his original SIMM Sup. It’s what he does.  If I could afford it I’d have one of each. Based on your post I would say next up for you is the Pop Dart. But in my personal opinion ST is the best board of this kind. But don’t ask me ask, Kirk. He will match the board to  you and the conditions you surf.

He also has a long board if you want one too.

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Re: Yet another new board thread
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2023, 12:17:52 AM »
Is there a predominant board type that works at your local spot? Meaning are longboards the concensus? or other? People loved the Striker but in clean surf... to minimize pearling, it being so flat.  The Smik is also in the longboard world.    The RNB and Gong are def different...more Simmons shaped, which are notoriously fast, and you may not want that. You may want to hang out and turn more than they allow. 

Hey the journey is half the fun. As long as the boards you buy have decent resale value, you're good. And your list is good that way.

Thanks again.
Not many SUP surfers around here. We were at Hell's Mouth Saturday and it was pretty much all  prone surfers in what was probably the best conditions I've seen in my short surfing journey. Clean 2 foot, zero wind. Their boards tended towards the longer end of the scale with a few of what I'd call proper long boards mixed in. My best totally inexperienced description of the wave there is it peaks quite quickly and then closes out and is slow. The drop feels steep but I maybe completely wrong on that. I find I have to get back a bit to avoid pearling. The Loco will outrun the wave after the drop if I don't get a turn in at the bottom. Conditions elsewhere in my area are more messy especially if there's wind. It blows out very quickly and not worth the effort.

I concede I need stability but also that good acceleration. I had a JP Fusion and I couldn't get that working at all. Also and 11' 6" Hypr Gun. Similar story. It feels like they either need an almighty shove from the wave or a big run up to build the speed. My skills aren't at that level or do you have the room.

Just a bit torn at the moment.

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Re: Yet another new board thread
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2023, 12:36:44 AM »
L41! No need to look any where else. 5 different models all based of his original SIMM Sup. It’s what he does.  If I could afford it I’d have one of each. Based on your post I would say next up for you is the Pop Dart. But in my personal opinion ST is the best board of this kind. But don’t ask me ask, Kirk. He will match the board to  you and the conditions you surf.

He also has a long board if you want one too.

They look very very interesting but other than international shipping I'm not sure they're an option in the UK. That shipping cost combined with taxes might kill that idea. I'll look at it but I'm not sure it's feasible sadly.

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Re: Yet another new board thread
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2023, 05:01:11 AM »
"...People loved the Striker but in clean surf... to minimize pearling, it being so flat."

Non-clean/choppy surf has nothing to do with inducing pearling.  Operator error does. 

Striker is a great small to medium wave board.  It will catch just about anything and can be flat water paddled for exercise.  When extra stability is needed in the winter when wearing a heavy wetsuit on a windy day, it can be used in larger surf.  Just step back, so you don't pearl the take-off.

I'm 59 x 175 on an 8'5 Striker.
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Re: Yet another new board thread
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2023, 07:02:39 AM »

Striker is a great small to medium wave board.  It will catch just about anything and can be flat water paddled for exercise.  When extra stability is needed in the winter when wearing a heavy wetsuit on a windy day, it can be used in larger surf.  Just step back, so you don't pearl the take-off.

I'm 59 x 175 on an 8'5 Striker.

What do you class as a medium wave if I can ask? I find the whole wave height thing so subjective. Last weekend was 2' forecast. I don't know if it's right or not. They looked higher than that at their peak but quickly closed out to about that I guess, maybe less. They might have been that further out I guess. My lack of experience on conditions really doesn't help.

Anyway, yeah Striker is on the list, as is the Destroyer (I forgot to add it above). As usual I'm killing myself over details. Is the Striker too flat, is the Destroyer too slow, stability etc etc.

Painful being me sometimes  ;D

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Re: Yet another new board thread
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2023, 09:32:24 AM »
Wave height is typically measured by where the top of the wave would be on your body when surfing the wave. Most people would consider a two foot wave to be around knee high.

To call a wave small or medium is subjective. Many would consider anything below head high to be small.

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Re: Yet another new board thread
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2023, 01:48:08 PM »
Many would consider anything below head high to be small.



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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2023, 03:18:28 AM »
Wave height is typically measured by where the top of the wave would be on your body when surfing the wave. Most people would consider a two foot wave to be around knee high.

To call a wave small or medium is subjective. Many would consider anything below head high to be small.

Indeed. Just to clarify I'd call the wave at Hell's Mouth to be quite slow. It also peaks very quickly whereby the so called 2' at the weekend was a fair bit taller than knee high but it closes out and comes back down again as it breaks.

I have other closer more finicky options too. Wind always the issue on whether they're worth the effort.

Anyway I think I'm leaning more towards the Sunova Revolution. The 9' X 30" feels like a good size for me, while being small enough to carry round. It's a little wider than the equivalent Striker (not ruling that out either tbf) so maybe a tad more stable? It's also different to my existing board and my little'un can develop on it or my existing board.
I can then review thing again when my Loco dies. Feels like a plan I think. 

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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2023, 05:26:04 PM »
The Infinity RNB was a game-changing board for me and two of my friends. Stable with a some performance in its DNA. Super fun, user-friendly board. Smaller ones will rip, larger ones will cruise.
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Re: Yet another new board thread
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2023, 09:55:37 PM »
Wave height is typically measured by where the top of the wave would be on your body when surfing the wave. Most people would consider a two foot wave to be around knee high.

To call a wave small or medium is subjective. Many would consider anything below head high to be small.

Indeed. Just to clarify I'd call the wave at Hell's Mouth to be quite slow. It also peaks very quickly whereby the so called 2' at the weekend was a fair bit taller than knee high but it closes out and comes back down again as it breaks.

I have other closer more finicky options too. Wind always the issue on whether they're worth the effort.

Anyway I think I'm leaning more towards the Sunova Revolution. The 9' X 30" feels like a good size for me, while being small enough to carry round. It's a little wider than the equivalent Striker (not ruling that out either tbf) so maybe a tad more stable? It's also different to my existing board and my little'un can develop on it or my existing board.
I can then review thing again when my Loco dies. Feels like a plan I think.

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