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Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« on: May 02, 2019, 08:12:16 AM »
What up fellow Zoners!  Thought I would post this up and help out some homies. 

Yesterday when I switched up boards I unknowingly tied a knot in my leash.  I was able to get the knot untied but in the process that section of the leash was destroyed so I had to cut the leash.  I am running Stay Covered hand tied leashes.  Best leashes I have found and have had zero failures. 

When I cut off the shrink wrap to disassembled the leash I saw how it was tied.  I tried my best to copy their knot but could not replicate it. 

https://staycovered.com/blogs/news/hand-tied-leashes-are-they-better
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'4" x 30 1/4" x 4 1/2" 112L
L41 SIMSUP S5 - 7'6" x 27 1/2" x 4 3/16" 106L
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'8" x 31"x 4 1/2" 122L - Modded w/ a King's TUT Tuttle box and using a King's foil.
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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2019, 08:23:56 AM »
With some research on line I was finally able to identify the knot.  It's called a Double Sheet Bend knot. ( AKA: Double Becket Bend, Double Common Bend, Double Flag Bend, Double Ordinary Bend, Double Simple Hitch, Double Swab Hitch)

The only difference is the the rope on the left is tied with two strings together instead of just one.  Here's a video of how it's tied.



Photo of my leash repaired.
 
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'4" x 30 1/4" x 4 1/2" 112L
L41 SIMSUP S5 - 7'6" x 27 1/2" x 4 3/16" 106L
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'8" x 31"x 4 1/2" 122L - Modded w/ a King's TUT Tuttle box and using a King's foil.
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'10" x 30 1/4" x 4 1/2" 120L
Starboard Whopper - 10' x 34" x 4 1/3" 171L - w/ FCS GL-1 fins

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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2019, 08:34:30 AM »
It's such a great little knot for us surfers.  The more you pull on it the tighter it gets.  I only wish I found it sooner.  I had a huge collection of broken leashes.  They all broke at the plastic swivel, which can be removed from the cuff section and repaired with some string and this knot.  Hope this helps you guys keep some coin in your pocket or your session being cut short from a busted leash....Peace Out! 

« Last Edit: May 02, 2019, 08:40:16 AM by Newps »
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'4" x 30 1/4" x 4 1/2" 112L
L41 SIMSUP S5 - 7'6" x 27 1/2" x 4 3/16" 106L
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'8" x 31"x 4 1/2" 122L - Modded w/ a King's TUT Tuttle box and using a King's foil.
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'10" x 30 1/4" x 4 1/2" 120L
Starboard Whopper - 10' x 34" x 4 1/3" 171L - w/ FCS GL-1 fins

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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2019, 08:48:29 AM »
Thanks Newps, very cool to know this knot.

I too have been using a Stay Covered leash and find it so much better and stronger than the DaKines I have been buying for the last few years.  My Dakine's were lasting less than a year, which is about 120 or so days surfing.  My last one broke on the second day I used it (fin cut it looked like). 

I have also broken  Creatures of Leisure and FCS leashes at the cuff where the plastic piece that attaches the leash to the cuff has failed.

I got tired of swimming for my life and came across the Stay Covered.  Very happy now.

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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2019, 09:08:16 AM »
Before Stay Covered I had to replace my leashes every three months.  No joke I would set a alarm for three months from the date it would go in use.  I bought four leashes in different lengths and thickness from Stay Covered a couple of years ago and they are all still going strong.  Even with the cuts and nicks that the stupid foil put in them... >:(
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'4" x 30 1/4" x 4 1/2" 112L
L41 SIMSUP S5 - 7'6" x 27 1/2" x 4 3/16" 106L
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'8" x 31"x 4 1/2" 122L - Modded w/ a King's TUT Tuttle box and using a King's foil.
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'10" x 30 1/4" x 4 1/2" 120L
Starboard Whopper - 10' x 34" x 4 1/3" 171L - w/ FCS GL-1 fins

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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2019, 10:53:30 AM »
Love It!

I have been making my own leashes for nearly 5 years.

I was worried at first about my design but now I WOULD NOT TRUST ANY PRODUCTION LEASH.

I used to break at least 2 leashes a year.  I got a huge roll of (Licorice Red) leash material from Wetstuff and have not had a failure (of leash material) since I have been using the design with cable 'thimble.'

The hand tied are closest thing to Great! using your knot.  It is key to watch the necking as the leash stretches.  When they neck too much you're at risk of failure IN the knot.

See link here:
https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,18684.msg235427.html#msg235427

Example of necking below.

PS: This was a 20 foot leash.  The change in diameter meant that the leash had to stretch to 3X it's length to get this skinny.  Meaning it probably stretched further but then only preserved the smaller diameter.  20 feet X 3 + 12 foot board means that the tip of my board was 72 feet away!
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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2019, 10:57:37 AM »
Here is what happens to the hand-tied leash. 

Each time the leash stretches the knot tightens a little bit more.  Eventually the cord gets squeezed tight enough to make the buffalo penny sh-t.
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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2019, 11:07:44 AM »
My buddy Ken was tired of broken leashes so he took it to 11!

See the size of cord and the thimble he is using. 

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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2019, 12:14:33 PM »
Beasho, necking you say? 

Sure as sh*t sir, you are correct.  Pulled the piece out of the trash to inspect and...... 
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'4" x 30 1/4" x 4 1/2" 112L
L41 SIMSUP S5 - 7'6" x 27 1/2" x 4 3/16" 106L
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'8" x 31"x 4 1/2" 122L - Modded w/ a King's TUT Tuttle box and using a King's foil.
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'10" x 30 1/4" x 4 1/2" 120L
Starboard Whopper - 10' x 34" x 4 1/3" 171L - w/ FCS GL-1 fins

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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2019, 12:26:02 PM »
Beasho, thank you for sharing about this failure point.  I will cut and retie these ends every year now to avoid a failure. 

Do you wrap you ends with anything like shrink-wrap, electrical tape...etc? I threw some duct tape on mine but I'm beginning to think it might be better to leave them exposed so that I can inspect them.
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'4" x 30 1/4" x 4 1/2" 112L
L41 SIMSUP S5 - 7'6" x 27 1/2" x 4 3/16" 106L
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'8" x 31"x 4 1/2" 122L - Modded w/ a King's TUT Tuttle box and using a King's foil.
L41 SIMSUP S4 - 7'10" x 30 1/4" x 4 1/2" 120L
Starboard Whopper - 10' x 34" x 4 1/3" 171L - w/ FCS GL-1 fins

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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2019, 12:41:31 PM »
as with climbing gear, exposed always........
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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2019, 12:44:45 PM »
as with climbing gear, exposed always........

Agree with Eastbound.  Exposed is both less and more  8)

PS: I thought your picture of necking was a re-post of my picture.  Yes identical stuff going on.  Every strong pull strangles the material a little bit more.

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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2019, 12:51:54 PM »
i am not koining the hand tying community just yet, but "swimming for my life" just got me to order a new leashlok!
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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2019, 02:40:24 PM »
My buddy Ken was tired of broken leashes so he took it to 11!

See the size of cord and the thimble he is using.

Holy crap, he might as well just use chain. What diameter is that Urethane???
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Re: Hand Tied Leash / Repair a Broken Leash
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2019, 07:14:44 AM »
Can you please share where you buy the cord?
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