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Re: Morning Naish porn
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2017, 09:06:22 AM »
"I'm not sure I know what you mean by 'quick tip', please explain."

A lot of the newer boards like the NSP's have a more rounder rail now and their initial stability is compromised giving it a 'quick tip' feel and it's not till you tip the board a it way over that the secondary stability kicks in.. Dugouts also feel this way.. I'm hoping that the rounded softer rails towards the front of the board hasn't caused it to loose some of its initial stability.

I think they struck a good balance in that regard. I never got the tippy feeling from that board
under any condition. If you look at the pictures you can see that the rail still got some edge around
the standing area but its the way they tucked it in that give you the slight roll feel. Either way,
I'm not sure I'll much of a help to you in that case:

- I'm relatively much shorter smaller frame.
- I'm used to boards with a lot of roll and I usually prefer it.
- I usually ride a 24" wide so the 26" will feel very sable regardless.
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Re: Morning Naish porn
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2017, 06:00:52 PM »
Hello Burchas,
While you are trying many new exciting boards, would you have teh chance to try the "new" 404 Go-Go?
It looks like a good board in the line of the Maliko and possibly Vapor (slower).

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Re: Morning Naish porn
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2017, 06:58:12 AM »
As promised, a little downwind video with the new Maliko.


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« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2017, 06:59:55 AM »
Hello Burchas,
While you are trying many new exciting boards, would you have teh chance to try the "new" 404 Go-Go?
It looks like a good board in the line of the Maliko and possibly Vapor (slower).

Cheers,
Luc

This board wasn't even on my radar but looking at the specs makes me wonder why.
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Re: Morning Naish porn
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2017, 12:12:14 AM »
Plenty of media on the new Maliko available now. It's confirmed there is no flat water board. Realistic insight into the market or lack of worthwhile development ?

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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2017, 06:55:40 AM »
Based of what I've seen the past year, the market has spoken, can't remember even seeing the Javelin even once
on major races. Even on our own race 25 miler around Manhattan which is flat water this time of year,  Kai went with
the Maliko both last year and this year.

so I do think it's realistic insight into the market, but imo, lack of worthwhile development is almost a given in the small
race market, better focus on one model and hype the hell out of it which seem to do the trick because the Maliko was flying
of he shelf before it even landed, could not find it anywhere, not even for rent or demo. Got lucky in Hood River.
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« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2017, 02:10:23 PM »
this is interesting on Naish as all other brands has flat water race board.

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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2017, 02:58:51 PM »
^ cool

They got good racers too.

BTW the SUP world championships starting tomorrow or saturday in copenhagen. Wonder what board casper will use. Worlds is still 12'6

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« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2017, 03:16:57 PM »
I am somewhat surprised that the Javelin has been dropped for 2018. I thought it was pretty cool looking and I liked the way it cruised on flat water...and it was very light. So maybe the price of left over Javelins need to drop considerably since it is no longer the "in" board? ):...........
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« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2017, 04:07:39 AM »
^ cool

They got good racers too.

BTW the SUP world championships starting tomorrow or saturday in copenhagen. Wonder what board casper will use. Worlds is still 12'6

You got your answer. He won on last year's Maliko, didn't go with the new model.
Female finalist Annie Reikert also used the older model.
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« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2017, 05:35:04 AM »
Plenty of media on the new Maliko available now. It's confirmed there is no flat water board. Realistic insight into the market or lack of worthwhile development ?

You get a good view into this at the Copenhagen ISA worlds. I'd say realistic insight into the market.

https://youtu.be/bdTHjtKJkQM?t=4h42m32s

Men's start at 4:44

Not a lot of displacement noses left at all other than the killer Starboard Sprint. Maybe 3Bay Flatwater, RRD close to a displacement nose, an older SIX x-14 and an older javelin (definitely not a competitive rider on that one).

You also get a good view of just how choppy it gets behind the leader group.
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« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2017, 05:36:03 AM »
Based of what I've seen the past year, the market has spoken, can't remember even seeing the Javelin even once
on major races. Even on our own race 25 miler around Manhattan which is flat water this time of year,  Kai went with
the Maliko both last year and this year.

so I do think it's realistic insight into the market, but imo, lack of worthwhile development is almost a given in the small
race market, better focus on one model and hype the hell out of it which seem to do the trick because the Maliko was flying
of he shelf before it even landed, could not find it anywhere, not even for rent or demo. Got lucky in Hood River.

Being part of Naishs team, I was told that the top pro's never did the races that warranted use of the board and that when they did, they felt they were faster on the Maliko. Make of that what you will. . They have sold a few in the UK but I personally felt its lack of volume and highly specialised use made it a very small earner for Naish.

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« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2017, 05:56:58 AM »

Being part of Naishs team, I was told that the top pro's never did the races that warranted use of the board and that when they did, they felt they were faster on the Maliko. Make of that what you will. . They have sold a few in the UK but I personally felt its lack of volume and highly specialised use made it a very small earner for Naish.

That makes sense. I understand where you coming from as rider on the larger side. You'd
probably be better off on the Starboards. For me the low volume just felt right from the start
on well designed board.

Would not surprise me at all to learn that Maliko is small earner, the race market being so small
and specialized in and of it self can justify the lack of worthwhile development. To make things
even more complicated, Casper just "wiped the floor" with all the highly specialized Starboard Sprints and he did it on last year's downwind board, so I'm not sure what to make of it yet.
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« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2017, 06:13:21 AM »
... To make things
even more complicated, Casper just "wiped the floor" with all the highly specialized Starboard Sprints and he did it on last year's downwind board, so I'm not sure what to make of it yet.

For 200m sprints.

I don't find that complicated at all. I think they go so fast in sprints it makes sense to use a board optimized for planing.

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« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2017, 06:15:25 AM »
To make things
even more complicated, Casper just "wiped the floor" with all the highly specialized Starboard Sprints and he did it on last year's downwind board, so I'm not sure what to make of it yet.

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