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Re: Tuttle Box vs. Plate Mount
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2017, 08:16:36 AM »
More cool carving to tempt the uninitiated.

And a nice cameo by some sort of an aggressive standup guy.  Dropped in on by a foil, get over it.

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Re: Tuttle Box vs. Plate Mount
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2017, 10:46:52 AM »
Here is a clip of Peter Trow on the Stretch board, filmed by Ian Boyd of all people.  Whats up with all ex-windsurfers, Dasher, Matt Schweitzer, Ian Boyd . . becoming film makers?

I don't know about the rest of them, but the Matt Schweitzer that is a filmmaker is Matty--Zane's brother--not Matt, his dad.  That SUP paddler could easily have been me.  I got in the way of (can't remember his name) a foiler at Cardiff a few times. He could easily go around me, so it was not that big a deal.
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Re: Tuttle Box vs. Plate Mount
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2017, 11:19:08 PM »
Shooting your board at another surfers head is an ancient aggressive move in the surf zone. Maybe it was an accident but I didn't see any effort to avoid the boards trajectory.

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Re: Tuttle Box vs. Plate Mount
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2019, 07:56:28 PM »
We finally have the Foil Strongbox available for DIY'ers.  Both Tuttle and Plate mount in a strong one piece construction that's easy to install into a custom foil board or retrofit.
Please watch the video for details:

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Re: Tuttle Box vs. Plate Mount
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2019, 02:02:01 PM »
We finally have the Foil Strongbox available for DIY'ers.  Both Tuttle and Plate mount in a strong one piece construction that's easy to install into a custom foil board or retrofit.
Please watch the video for details:

Great Video!  This deserves its own post. 

I am also glad that Gorilla Glue is getting its due coverage.  Too many old-school surfboard repair people are still using epoxy with micro-balloons.  The epoxy with balloons is heavy, brittle and DOES NOT FILL GAPS.

The Gorilla glue is a great way to build a high density foam matrix that sticks everywhere and will tear things apart before it fails. 

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Re: Tuttle Box vs. Plate Mount
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2019, 03:29:43 PM »
I started on a tuttle and now using a track.  The main thing I didn't like about the tuttle is that it would work loose and make noise.  It was a worry and an annoyance that I didn't like dealing with.  I like the idea of being able to move the track mount but never have.  It's easier just to move my back foot.  The downsides of the track is that the board gets a little indented and or scratched from the plate and it's probably not as strong.

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Re: Tuttle Box vs. Plate Mount
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2019, 04:24:56 PM »
If you are looking for Rectavit Structan Polyurethane it is sold in the US under the name Grizzly Glue Structan.

The MSDS data shows its the same stuff made by Rectavint.

https://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-jgnuwblrjb/content/pdf-files/Grizzly-Express-SDS.PDF

However it doesn't seem like it's recommended for glueing Foil mounts to a board:

"However, Grizzly Glues should not be used where strength is needed in gaps that appear in load-bearing or on stressed structures such as laminated beams."

But so what as I'm pretty sure fluffed up Gorilla Glue isn't intended for what we are using it for.


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Re: Tuttle Box vs. Plate Mount
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2019, 04:45:18 PM »
If you are looking for Rectavit Structan Polyurethane it is sold in the US under the name Grizzly Glue Structan.

The MSDS data shows its the same stuff made by Rectavint.

https://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-jgnuwblrjb/content/pdf-files/Grizzly-Express-SDS.PDF

This is great to know.  STRETCH was the first to recommend using Gorilla glue on Surfboards (to me at least).

I was gluing 2 halves of surfboards together with Gorilla glue 15+ years ago.  Gorilla Glue is just 1) Higher Density and 2) Stronger than EPS foam. 

If you are gluing into EPS that is all you need. 

The warning about gaps and Gorilla Glue (Rectivit) failing comes when gluing 2 pieces of wood together.  You wouldn't want a FOAM substrate between the pieces of wood for example.  For what we are doing its great stuff. 

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Re: Tuttle Box vs. Plate Mount
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2019, 04:53:06 PM »
Here is another trick that I use to add water to Gorilla Glue and then WHIP it up.

It will turn WHITE and provide a MUCH, MUCH more consistent density without large air-pocket voids.

This is what I use to fill divots in EPS foam and/or want a more perfect cure.  It will cure faster, and in a completely air tight, moisture free environment


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Re: Tuttle Box vs. Plate Mount
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2019, 11:26:42 PM »
I agree with Beasho. If you look at fin box and foil box failures, it's usually the EPS foam that fails (or got melted during installation from hot epoxy).
Gorilla glue forms a very good bond between the EPS foam and high density PVC foam, fills and seals any gaps better, is lighter and does not get hot like epoxy.
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