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Hi all, just got the 5.5m and 4.0m 2022 Units to upgrade from my old S25 Naish (5.3 and 3.5). A couple of qustions I'm hoping you can help with.
1. Does anyone have a link to instructions or video on how to pack up/roll/fold the 2022 Unit.
2. No pump or adaptor with the Unit. My Naish pump doesn't fit the Unit valve, can I get an adapter, or do I get another pump, if so what's good pump for Units?
3. No leash with the Unit, what's the consensus on best leash to attach to waist belt?
Thanks, appreciate any help!

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Reedin Super wing
« on: December 03, 2021, 03:31:17 PM »
Looking forward to getting to try one of these wings, makes perfect sense, especially going to lighter 1mm xply! Additionally, as with windsurf sails with x-ply if you do manage to stab/tear your wing, the damage will be limited significantly by the x-ply fibres. I've had huge 3 foot tears in my dacron wing canopy from a light touch of the foil. My windsurf sails have had full speed, full body weight catapults into them with harness hooks and only dented or punctured a few inches of tear.  I've also had windsurf sails fly onto nasty sharp upright fins on the beach with only minor inches of tear as damaged is contained by the xply thread(s).

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I've been doing a quick and easy dumb bell routine using 12 lb dumbbells  (use whatever you're comfortable with, I'm not out to get jacked, like SurfCowboy, just trying to maintain shape/duration for winging 3+ hr sessions). Takes about 5 minutes

10 reps of Bicep Curls
10 reps of Military Dumbbell Press
repeat this 5 times;  do daily or every other day

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RobM- YES YES YES!!! Almost identical to what you are doing. ...

This method is so quick and easy!! I too cannot mount a sinker board onto my knees with the wing floating beside me. Tried and failed many many times. A sink start seems too hard, slow and obviously need deeper water. I ride strapless so a waterstart is pretty much out of the question, and I'm almost positive I could never pull off Alan Cadiz's sit start. Very cool RobM that we are doing the same thing. It seems so intuitive. Should we name it? Quick start? Wingover start? The Stinkbug start? :-)
Cnski- my wing twin brother! Hilarious, that we have both come up with the identical method out of necessity ;D.  The Stinkbug works,  I just had to look at a picture, and that probably resembles me splayed out on the board under my wing! I was also thinking a "deadman" like in a crime scene outline!

Same as you, no way I could do the Cadiz start from sitting position straddling the board,  I'm not that flexible, numerous  fails.

@Dontsink, same the unbalanced board often results in water to air missile into wing ;)

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Wing Foil Videos
« on: February 27, 2021, 05:52:04 PM »
I got out after work Friday with windfoil/wing friends Mark/Chris.  It was typical winter conditions here off Victoria BC waterfront in Strait of Juan de Fuca.  25-35 kn westerly, big wind swell, with a bonus sail past send-off for HMCS Calgary frigate as they are heading out on 6 month tour. Mark is the windsurf rig, I'm the winger on red/black wing, Chris is winger on blue wing. Mark's dad is flying a Nanchang (CJ-6 trainer) with his "wing" buddies and the one deploying smoke!
Video: J. Betts




Rob

   


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Balz Mueller said windows are coming to Ensis in next version. 

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Was just reading the description on BigWinds site, they're saying riders may use up to 1 size smaller than previously...

I think that's just recognition that the s25 wings weren't especially grunty at the low end. They've made it stiffer to fix that and bring it more in line with market average is my guess...

Probably, which is a good upgrade thing for Naish.  I'm often able to be on my S25 5.3m when others (of similar or more weight) are using their 4.0's

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Hey cnksi, I'll be interested to see if you are doing what I've been doing also.  I have a 5'0 SkyWing, 75 lt and I weigh ~93-95kg in full rubber, boots, hood,  so close to your -20 lt to weight ratio.  At that length and volume it's not a sinker for me, but it's a b$#$ch to get on to knee start, especially in very light wind. I cannot just mount the board on my knees with the wing floating beside me. My method has to be done quick to get to knee start and balanced on board with wing overhead. The steps are literally done as fast as possible 3-4 seconds or you're stuck in unstable no balance no mans land!

Hey Rob: I have a DIY version of same board, though I'm lighter than you....75kg-ish without the 5mm wetsuit.  Just paddling the board without a wing, are you able to pop up to your knees?  Is it a balance issue or is it sinking?  [I first experimented with smaller boards on a buddy's surf foil. So tippy, I would often take 10 tries before I could get up.....and so by comparison, the Sky felt easy ;-)

Hey Juan, I've tried your method a few times and could never get it to work. The board deck is barely above water, and it's so tippy fore/aft + side/side in those moments trying to get the wing from beside the board to overhead without any wing pressure to stabilize against.  What I'm doing works for me now in all conditions, but I'm game to try waterstarts if windy enough, and to also work on the traditional knee start method you're describing.  See you on the water!

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Was just reading the description on BigWinds site, they're saying riders may use up to 1 size smaller than previously. Apparently better drift capability too!

https://bigwinds.com/products/naish-s26-wing-surfer/

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I made a drop in board size too over Presidents Day weekend in Hatteras. It was a fun trip and I had the place to myself, literally. I demoed several Quattro wing boards and ended up on the 5'4" @ 90 L. My current board is a 5'4" @ 110 L. I weight about 110 kg but with my full 5/4 suit w/booties/gloves probably pushing 115+ kg. The 90 L board was a sinker for me for sure but I was able to get going using a new technique I discovered several months ago. I have never seen this method used in videos or described and it was actually pretty easy even in shallow water on a sinker board. I plan to make a video on how it's done. It's quick and slick!! Having a demo center available was an eye opener on what is possible with board size. I think I could have even rode the 80 L Quattro with this technique but didn't demo that one. It's fun riding smaller boards!! Congrats to all making a drop down in board size.

Hey cnksi, I'll be interested to see if you are doing what I've been doing also.  I have a 5'0 SkyWing, 75 lt and I weigh ~93-95kg in full rubber, boots, hood,  so close to your -20 lt to weight ratio.  At that length and volume it's not a sinker for me, but it's a b$#$ch to get on to knee start, especially in very light wind. I cannot just mount the board on my knees with the wing floating beside me. My method has to be done quick to get to knee start and balanced on board with wing overhead. The steps are literally done as fast as possible 3-4 seconds or you're stuck in unstable no balance no mans land!
1. I'm in water next to board, I hold my wing in front hand on the handle that I prefer to wing with (2 back) with forearm resting on deck of board near front straps. 
2. Still holding wing in front hand, push up onto board with my front elbow/forearm and back hand/forearm, the front hand has to draw the wing over my head to windward while i get my chest up onto board. I'm also getting my front leg/knee sliding into position, while simultaneously getting back knee onto board.
3. Almost immediately, once I've slid knees into position and semi sprawled under wing on the board, I quickly reach for back handle and immediately power up the wing to be able to use it for balance and finalize/stabilize my knee start position.
4. Once I'm in classic knee start position with wing powered up overhead, it's all normal from there and doable.

Clear as mud from my description!  I've been doing this since last summer when I got the board as I found it was the only way to ever get up and going for me. I do it in all conditions, big wind swell, big wind (35+) and on the lightest end as possible (10 ish? to get to knees then stay that way till gust to get to feet and fly).  I've tried to explain it, but there's no comparison to seeing it done, never seen anyone do it online in video, and I've never had it video'd  Something to do some day I guess.  I suspect your board may be a tad easier as it's longer and wider, but I'm sure still sketchy at your float to weight ratio. Anyway, very interested to hear/see what it is you're doing! Cheers and happy winging!

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Rob: if you could go back in time, would you still buy the 5' or would you prefer the 5'4" as more an all-rounder?  Seems like that would give up slight performance but with a lot of low-end benefit.  And since i am not exactly pushing loops, I don't know if that performance benefit is worth the cost. I am considering gluing some blanks to make a 5'4" homage next.
Hey JuanDF, in hindsight I think the 5'4 at 95lt may be a better all-rounder for me at 185lbs/85kg. I would probably have no issues riding it into the 35+ kn conditions similar to what I can go in with the 5'0. It's the low end that's a real struggle for me to be able to get on the board for a knee start with little to no wind to pressure up the wing to balance against, or if up on foil and the wind drops i eventually have to go to prone as I can't keep standing and balanced.  That being said,  I'm considering still pushing the low end with the 5'0 by getting the Axis 1150 front wing for light conditions and possibly more powerful wing like Ensis.

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Awesome news Caribe! I knew you'd love it and the size would be no issue. It made a world of difference to my riding and transitions going smaller.  I'm really impressed and happy with the Sky Wing's build quality and performance!

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Hi @surfcowboy, you can order the Ullman wing on the GONG site right now, so seems like a done deal? 

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So what do we know about Ullman wings?  Apparently a big sailmaker (boat) presence in Florida(?), into kites the past decade or more.  Hard to tell much from the Ullman site, hardly any info, the GONG site seems to have the best info and pictures. Particularly interesting is their description of a central batten which in pics looks to be running down the topside of the central strut. I assume you can remove it to fold/roll up the wing? Anyone with any Ullman Osprey wing experiences?  thanks!

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Ullman Kiteboarding and GONG have just announced that Ullman Wings (Osprey 21') will be distributed and for sale from GONG's online site and will be the same price as GONG wings.  Ullman retains all design, testing etc. utilizing GONG's online distribution/sales model.  Interesting news on both sites, Patrice G has video up about it.
https://www.facebook.com/ullmankiteboarding/
https://www.gong-galaxy.com/magazine/news/matos-nouveau-partenariat/

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