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Cold Season 2022
« on: December 16, 2022, 08:39:17 PM »
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Re: Cold Season 2022
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2022, 10:39:44 PM »
Awesome video, love those tunes. 

This is a fascinating podcast on how our bodies deal with temperature.   

If you don't have time to watch it - soles of the feet, palms and upper facial area are the best surface to apply heat - to warm the core.

https://youtu.be/77CdVSpnUX4?t=4211
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Re: Cold Season 2022
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2022, 09:26:24 AM »
Interesting video, La Perouse. There has been a lot of research on ways to heat and cool humans, a lot of it sponsored by the DOD. Maintaining high performance in the military depends on it. From what I've read, controlling the temperature of extremities is useful in recovering from hypo- or hyperthermia, but maintaining core temperature is best done at the major pulse points, where veins and arteries are near the surface and heat transfer to blood is most effective.

I'm interested in this stuff because the son of my late best friend started a company to control core temperature in difficult conditions, targeted mostly at athletes. I'll send him the link. I've been helping him with marketing and general business advice while he was getting Qore started and occasionally still do. The company has morphed into mostly military applications though if you pull into a drive-through fast food place in hot climates the order takers outside the building will probably be wearing Qore Iceplate vests and the iPad they use for orders will have an Iceplate incorporated into the holder.

The original product used small phase change packets placed on pulse points. The DOD required more cooling capability, the ability to be used both for heating and cooling, and different packaging. The current plates meet DOD requirements but are far too bulky to be used for athletic applications. They slip into the ballistic plate pockets of standard bulletproof vests and enhance the effectiveness of the bulletproof vests by spreading impacts.

I've tried all the iterations of the products. The small packets were effective but only for a relatively short time. The Iceplates are too big for most athletic efforts. The video La Perouse linked to makes me think that heated gloves or maybe a heated paddle shaft for cold water surfing might be a better solution than thick layers of insulation. But that would require a lot of development for a very small market--people like Surfercook who are willing to surf in New Jersey in the winter. There might be as many as fifty of those. We're probably stuck with hot showers afterward or jumping in the water to recover from cooking our asses off. Or running off to Maui as soon as the first cold rain falls.
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Re: Cold Season 2022
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2022, 09:30:12 PM »
Awesome video, love those tunes.
Thanx, Perouse! Cool name! I took the time to check it out. Looks like a nice place.

But that would require a lot of development for a very small market--people like Surfercook who are willing to surf in New Jersey in the winter. There might be as many as fifty of those. We're probably stuck with hot showers afterward or jumping in the water to recover from cooking our
asses off. Or running off to Maui as soon as the first cold rain falls.

Yo Pono! I'm guessing there are more than 50 winter surfers here in NJ. I know a Pro surf coach that runs a flourishing year round clientele base. I'll ask him what he thinks. I'm guessing 10,000? Curious if you watched my video? Funny you mention hot showers after surfing the cold. I only just turned off my outside showers for the winter. Luckily I'm only two blocks from my break so no driving in my suit.
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Re: Cold Season 2022
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2022, 10:46:12 PM »
[quote author=surfercook link=topic=38303.msg438695#msg438695
Yo Pono! I'm guessing there are more than 50 winter surfers here in NJ. I know a Pro surf coach that runs a flourishing year round clientele base. I'll ask him what he thinks. I'm guessing 10,000? Curious if you watched my video? Funny you mention hot showers after surfing the cold. I only just turned off my outside showers for the winter. Luckily I'm only two blocks from my break so no driving in my suit.
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Of course I watched your video, I always do.
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Re: Cold Season 2022
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2022, 11:56:06 PM »
Thanks Cook for helping me keep up the stoke. Very nice vid with great chill tunes.
The solo shot really does the job well when it works.

In a funny different way I love winter surf. Summer is of course tops but the winter is a another flavor. Of course it is mostly the smaller crowd which is more of a brotherhood in the winter. And after a good session there is more feeling of accomplishment than in the warmth of the summer.

I have found that by getting lots of quality rubber on and remaining warm before the session are the keys to keeping it fun and doable.

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Re: Cold Season 2022
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2022, 03:58:35 AM »
Nice video SC!  Amazing how LBI floods.  Kudos to you for getting out on the 16th, I surfed yesterday it was much smaller but perfect conditions!  Regarding winter surfing in NJ, popular breaks get crowded and I’ve made trips to NY beaches over the years after a Nor’easter during a weekday and I avoid the known spots due to crowds. 
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Re: Cold Season 2022
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2022, 10:58:00 AM »
Of course I watched your video, I always do.
Well thanx! Good to know! That was one long podcast Perouse linked us to. I only lasted about 15 mins! Like winter surfing if ya don't have enough rubber. I scored what is pretty much an entry level winter suit in the form of a Hyperflex 5/4/3 hooded full. Summer 2021 it was on the clearance rack at the closest surf shop to me which is about a mile away. I paid $120 for it. 1/2 price! It's super comfortable but the arms are only 3mil so if the vortex shows I'm out. My previous rubber was a 5/4 O'Neil Pyro Tech. THAT was a warm suit. I was surprised to see the quote fail from you. It can be tricky and frustrating. I find that just being on the keyboard typing out replies therapeutic! Keeps the synapsis' movin'!

Thanks Cook for helping me keep up the stoke. Very nice vid with great chill tunes.
Well that's nice to hear. Thanx. I'm trying to keep the stoke alive. Hope France is good to you in the coming year! One day! 8) Do you have a SS? I seem to recall you are GoPro only. Mine died last go out! 5 year old Session5. It went down swingin' though! I liked your thoughts on winter surfing. We coldies are definitely a notch or two above the warmies while gathering the stoke! That feeling of accomplishment always equated to me assessing the conditions and rising to the challenge within the parameters of my abilities. There's always that feeling of wonderment of the outcome on the big days.

Nice video SC!  Amazing how LBI floods.  Kudos to you for getting out on the 16th, I surfed yesterday it was much smaller but perfect conditions!  Regarding winter surfing in NJ, popular breaks get crowded and I’ve made trips to NY beaches over the years after a Nor’easter during a weekday and I avoid the known spots due to crowds. 
Yea, LBI is def flood zone. Challenging drive for me most nor'easters to get to the south end for cleaner conditions. Thanx on the kudos. It was definitely Code Red out there. Pretty much had butterflies in my stomach the entire day with anticipation. Right up until my last wave to the beach near right after sunset! Good ya got the leftovers. I passed on em here. Ya ever want a shot gun rider for a NY trip PM me! I'd be stoked. Been a while since I did a trip there. 2016 I think for Hurricane Juaquin. THAT was a stoker!


« Last Edit: December 18, 2022, 11:04:02 AM by surfercook »
One could go into a mall in Kansas and ask a teenager "What is a surfer looking for?, and the answer will always be, "The perfect wave"
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