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Re: Swim Missiles
« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2022, 07:57:01 AM »
I wonder if a windsurf fuselage would work better for this. My thought is more pitch stable, so easier gliding. Anyway, worth remembering if pitch control is difficult

That is a great suggestion.  I am not sure what to expect but I am open to an XL fuse if need be.

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« Reply #61 on: November 22, 2022, 10:14:23 AM »
I wonder if a windsurf fuselage would work better for this. My thought is more pitch stable, so easier gliding. Anyway, worth remembering if pitch control is difficult.

I reached out to Sam Pae awhile back, asking about boogie foiling. He said it was the most difficult version of foiling. Sam would not be able to try a windsurf fuse because it would tear his legs up.

I just called Sam P'ae to ask about this.  He shared the following photographs. 

He said that the windsurf fuselage would move the front wing too far forward for his application.  He took a damaged standard fuselage and had someone weld an additional 4" section.  It took the standard 784mm / 31" fuselage to 35".  He has been playing with the Axis 999 lately and likes the 420 tail with flip tips.

He liked it but still wants more length.  He said that his system has worked on a Boogie Foil for waves up to 15 foot faces, but that it gets dicey at that size.
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Re: Swim Missiles
« Reply #62 on: November 22, 2022, 10:16:19 AM »
I made another post because I have a different application, and think that longer fuselages could help the rest of the SUP foil world, but Sam also shared this Dead-Sexy Mutant.

The idea was to raise the tail, to breach before the main wing, and keep flying rather than face-planting at high speeds - which apparently is horrible on a boogie foil rig.

Sam said this T-Tail configuration worked well on small waves but NOT on bigger waves (I assume bigger means 6 foot faces or more). 
« Last Edit: November 22, 2022, 10:25:44 AM by Beasho »

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Re: Swim Missiles
« Reply #63 on: November 22, 2022, 10:21:02 AM »
We talked about ways to extend the fuselage in a more modular fashion.  Example use a hot-glue Kenalu shaft.   Put a male end on the fuselage and then add 4" or 6" or 8" midsections to extend the length, have the other male end with an Axis tail attachment. 

IF the tail is smaller, because you would not need as much leverage, the system would not have to be bombproof. 

He then sent me these pictures of another way to extend the tail.  A homemade G10 set up that he put together.  Pretty creative stuff from the guy who invented the first Tail Handle for SUP's and was the first to recommend a long front foot strap, to me, for big waves e.g. heavy front foot pressure for takeoff and then being able to slide the foot back for efficient glide.
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Re: Swim Missiles
« Reply #64 on: November 22, 2022, 10:36:06 AM »
Sam is endlessly creative.

I have a standard red fuselage I'm not using. It would be easy for me to weld in an extension, though you'll want me to do it after I've been doing a bunch of aluminum fabrication--after every spell away from the shop, my aluminum welding deteriorates to the birdshit level. After a week of practice I'm pretty good for a hack. But before...
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Re: Swim Missiles
« Reply #65 on: November 22, 2022, 10:50:38 AM »
Sam is endlessly creative.

I have a standard red fuselage I'm not using. It would be easy for me to weld in an extension, though you'll want me to do it after I've been doing a bunch of aluminum fabrication--after every spell away from the shop, my aluminum welding deteriorates to the birdshit level. After a week of practice I'm pretty good for a hack. But before...

I am not in need of this but Sam might be interested.  The T-Tail looks like a RED fuselage.  I know that he said he was moving towards ART 999 and the like so he has migrated to the Black series (as shown in the first photos).  I ping you with his number if you don't have it. 

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Re: Swim Missiles
« Reply #66 on: November 22, 2022, 12:42:15 PM »
Thanks Beasho and send Sam a big thanks.  That is super interesting.  I have two Red standard fuselages coming from Axis (just guessing at this point) but something like this may be needed. 

 


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