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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2022, 08:04:44 AM »
Shit Bill! Now I have to look up what Tuvan throatsinging is all about! Don't have time for this... Arrgghhh ;D

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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2022, 08:18:40 AM »
You mean you don't have Tuvan Throatsingers in your playlist! For shame. Any serious Richard Feynman fan knows all about Tannu Tuva, the geographical center of Asia, and throatsinging. I'm a Feynman fanatic, I read his "Lectures in Physics" about every five years. I dragged my wife to a concert. It completely freaked her out. It's much, much spookier in person. Hearing one person make three tones simultaneously while singing over the drones picks the hair on your neck straight up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufG9S6X8FDM 
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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2022, 03:16:24 PM »
I'm stoked that my post has elicited a reference to Feynman and Tuvan throat signing. Ponobill... you just made my day.  Time to dig out my old copies of Feynman from my days as a physics undergrad.
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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2022, 11:18:38 AM »
I think Tucker is riding one of the KT boards in this video (4:25 mark):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiuTXnx3evU

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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2022, 08:32:01 PM »
Wow!
Three of the most evolved Tuvan throatsingers in the world today... Throwing down jamboree style! I LOVE IT! THANX for sharing Bill!

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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2022, 10:06:46 PM »
 I've seen Huun Huur Tu in concert several times. One surprise is that these musicians and singers can play a wide variety of instruments, including western ones. And they rock. At one concert some of the members of the Mongolian Heavy Metal group--the Hu--opened for them and some of the members of Huun Huur Tu played along with them. Fucking incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8dCGIm6yc
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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2022, 07:41:30 AM »
For anyone who is actually interested in this board:   :) ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEEIVotA4o0&t=344s

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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2022, 09:14:56 AM »
Another nudge back on topic! Doesn't seem to be game changing tech from this review...

https://youtu.be/jcqzdVbY5b4
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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2022, 02:17:12 PM »
I wonder how it would go as a semi-sinker / sinker.  Would the voluminous front 2/3rds help get the nose up to the surface quicker?
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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2022, 02:54:13 PM »
I could see it helping on a sinker.   On some sinker boards I feel like I need to be awkwardly far back to rise the nose. With this volume distribution you could probably center yourself on the board a bit more when starting. 

This volume distribution might also help keep the nose high when landing airs.

That said - I am still a believer in a flatter hull and achieving a similar volume distribution effect by pumping volume into the nose deck area (see Appletree Jazz or FOne Rocket Wing S), versus altering the hull shape so drastically.

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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2022, 05:51:10 PM »
Another nudge back on topic! Doesn't seem to be game changing tech from this review...

https://youtu.be/jcqzdVbY5b4

I guess it depends who you ask. Seems like the poor reviewer was force fed a humble pie :D
My first time on a sinker board felt like a game changer, where the game was rigged against me. He sounded just like me describing my experience after that session :P
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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2022, 08:46:57 PM »
Oh, is this a thread about boards?
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2022, 09:23:41 PM »
Oh, is this a thread about boards?

It's about sharing humble pie recipes, no?  ???
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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2022, 06:03:56 AM »
Another nudge back on topic! Doesn't seem to be game changing tech from this review...

https://youtu.be/jcqzdVbY5b4

I guess it depends who you ask. Seems like the poor reviewer was force fed a humble pie :D
My first time on a sinker board felt like a game changer, where the game was rigged against me. He sounded just like me describing my experience after that session :P

Yeah, looks like Nuzzo isn't familiar with the Stinkbug start, not that you would expect to need to use it with a board that size.  I'm guessing the Ginxu is a board that will take some muscle memory and technique to dial in. 
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Re: Ginxu step hokum
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2022, 02:15:31 PM »
Another nudge back on topic! Doesn't seem to be game changing tech from this review...

https://youtu.be/jcqzdVbY5b4

I guess it depends who you ask. Seems like the poor reviewer was force fed a humble pie :D
My first time on a sinker board felt like a game changer, where the game was rigged against me. He sounded just like me describing my experience after that session :P

Hmmm, perhaps. I get that he might have had issues with the instability getting started, which is one of / the main drawback of the design (as well as weight), but I still think that he'd be able to articulate the standout benefits of the board (which are supposed to include easy take offs, easy touch downs) if it really does offer something revolutionary. If it's such a difficult design for an intermediate (as a minimum) rider, does it have any business being applied on a board of that size? Maybe at 82L but the range goes up to 120L!

I remain to be convinced, but will keep an open mind. I'm sure the design have some benefits, but there are clear disadvantages too. I've tried to interpret the German reviews, but the auto translate is mainly spouting gibberish...
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