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Mario_Wings

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2021, 12:24:43 AM »

They have just become available here.

Any information or comparison between the 899 and 999?

Any insights Dwight?

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2021, 05:19:11 AM »
I got to try them both.
The 899 turns much better than the 999 and still glides well but nothing like the out of the world glide of the 999.
The 899 will be THE wing, many people will be selling their 880 (I have already  ;D).

799 has so little surface but don't let that spook you. It has a lot of initial lift but also a quick stall speed so it needs to be powered.

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2021, 10:51:49 AM »

They have just become available here.

Any information or comparison between the 899 and 999?

Any insights Dwight?


Where is "here"? It's not on the website for ordering, did you contact them directly?

A few videos of people ripping on the Armie 725, I hope the 799 turns as well!

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2021, 12:50:35 PM »

Where is "here"? It's not on the website for ordering, did you contact them directly?

A few videos of people ripping on the Armie 725, I hope the 799 turns as well!

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2021, 05:57:57 PM »
Nice marketing ploy-limited edition buy now!
maybe try-global production bottleneck, can't produce enough! Lol. Limited edition is more fun though.

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2021, 01:40:57 AM »

so I took the plunge and bought the 899. I have the 420 stab and the 375P.

Two goes on a pocket board with kite . . . have the mast in furtherest rear position and furtherest front footstraps and still a bit more front foot pressure than I would like. I suppose I might have to try the shim. Rides and does everything well, gets up early and can keep flying at slow speeds.

One go today in less wind than ideal. 88kg on a 5' 90L not boxy board with 4.8 wing.  Wind was gusty. My friend (88kg on 5'4" 95L boxy board) could get up on the 999 relatively easily with his 5m wing.

I got up on the foil when a few solid gusts hit and it was such a smooth, fast and drag free feeling when up on the foil. Amazing glide for its size and quite a low stall speed. Did not really feel any front foot pressure and yet it was stable with foot changes. Fast gybes were great and not a problem tacking. Great job done by Adrian and the Research Team :)

I do want to get that same drag free feeling happening when using the kite. Any suggestions?



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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2021, 04:27:29 AM »

I do want to get that same drag free feeling happening when using the kite. Any suggestions?
If using the aluminum mast, drill out the tapped hole. Make it a through hole in the base plate. That will get you farther back in the tracks.

or

Reverse shim the stab

or

shorter fuse

or

smaller stab

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2021, 01:06:24 PM »

If using the aluminum mast, drill out the tapped hole. Make it a through hole in the base plate. That will get you farther back in the tracks.
or
Reverse shim the stab
or
shorter fuse
or
smaller stab

Thanks Dwight . . .

Am using 96cm V1 carbon mast with ultra short fuse. Changing from 420 to 375 seemed to help.

Reverse shim the stab may be the easiest option left at this point ... and an excuse to grab a 350P at some stage :)


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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2022, 02:12:53 PM »
Excited but concerned on recently ordering an 899 with UltraShort and Progressive 400.  I'm only about 1-2" forward from the back of the box on my Dwight board with F-one Phantom 940.  Hoping I don't run out of box with this new combo, since I expect going higher aspect with the wing trailing edge already quite a distance away from the mast centerline.  Any experience or reference to help ease my mind?  I'm about 75 kg. 
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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2022, 12:12:51 AM »
Excited but concerned on recently ordering an 899 with UltraShort and Progressive 400.  I'm only about 1-2" forward from the back of the box on my Dwight board with F-one Phantom 940.  Hoping I don't run out of box with this new combo, since I expect going higher aspect with the wing trailing edge already quite a distance away from the mast centerline.  Any experience or reference to help ease my mind?  I'm about 75 kg.

If you're using the aluminum base plate you can drill out the threaded holes and use pan head screws to get another inch of rearward travel.

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2022, 08:00:51 PM »
I don't know about the smaller wings but the 999 needs about a half-inch further back for me. And if I don't move it back it's just a little more front leg weight.
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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2022, 09:07:54 AM »
Thanks so much to ALL the contributors to this thread! After reading by several accounts that the HPS 880 is just as fast and more carvy than the ART999 I was able to hold off investing money that I didnt have and have really enjoyed the HELL out of my 880 for the past 2 months!

But then along comes the 899...faster and looser and carvier...and some have said theyve sold their 880s and switched over 100 percent to the 899...and once again Im in a quandry.

our winds rarely get above 18 knots...and some of the best days in clean waves are 14knots and below. Typically ill be on a 6mt MOJO and my HPS 1050 milking the little swell for all its worth. But NOT just looking to glide on downwinders...more interested in trying to pump and turn and do little carves on the bumps...from what ive read, the 999 isnt so great at TURNING on a wingtip.

So im wondering what will the 899 really give me over the 880? Perhaps I should be swapping my 1050 for a 999 and just enjoy the increased speed and glide and sacrifice a bit of carvyness? Would anyone argue that the 1050 HPS is actually more SURFY than the 999?

Basically, feeling the need to throw some more money away and cant decide if I should "upgrade" my 1050 or my 880. BTWAY...also im still riding only a SHORT fuse and 420 stab.....would anyone care to argue that buying an ULTRAshort fuse and a 375 Progressive might be even MORE of a quiver enhancer than a new ART foil? Thanx again and good winds!

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2022, 10:24:00 AM »
In my opinion. Funny a new tail first. Its the cheapest option and has the biggest difference. My brother went from his 980 and 400 tail. To the 980 with a 350 progressive and it was a night and day difference. He looks so much better prone foiling in the 
People are starting to trend back towards longer fuses now too. Well see where they end up with length.

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2022, 11:48:02 AM »
Just got the 899 last night after riding the 999 since it came out and loving it. No wind on the forecast, though :(

I have the "short" fuse and the 375p tailwing.

I was told by axis most folks are on ultrashort or crazyshort to get these wings to turn well in the surf. So that's on my ever growing list.

If anyone wants to save me 1/2 a session they can tell me how far to move my mast forward switching from the 999 to the 899. I'm assuming it would need to move forward, maybe 1cm?? How about sizing down fuses, do you move the mast around or does the fuse size adjust for that?

 


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