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The ART 899 and 799 thread
« on: November 05, 2021, 04:06:00 AM »
Perhaps jumping the gun a little but has anyone ridden the smaller sisters to the 999. I'm curious, but wonder how awkward they are to use in real life (reading the stats, they look small [the volume in particular], even for a light weight like me) but also appreciate that this breed of foil isn't quite like what's come before.

Basically want to understand whether the performance warrants the effort (like deciding to wing a sinker) although I suspect a straight tail board would very much help.
I'm 5'10", 65kg riding:
Gong Lethal 4'6 65L
Gong Catch 5'3 34L
Gong Hipe v2 4'11 70L
Axis ART 999
Gong Fluid L-S, XXL-S on 85cm mast
Duotone Slick 3m, 4m, 5m

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2021, 05:24:05 AM »
The 899 will probably become Axis's most popular wing in 2022.
I wouldn't go any smaller on a sinker for winging...

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2021, 10:06:59 PM »
Please link any info you have. I canít find them on the axis site.

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2021, 03:45:22 AM »
Please link any info you have. I canít find them on the axis site.
they are not yet released....

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2021, 03:12:04 PM »
Retitle the thread. I found some info.

Thefoilingcollective.com/product/axis-black-art-front-wing/

870mm 837cm^2
999mm 1038cm^2
1160mm 1385cm^2

All around 9+ AR

I just ordered a progressive 375 tail for my 999, hopefully itís good for a smaller ART as well. The 837 is the size Iíve been after, should glide amazing but also turn well.

Axis please add me to the research team ;)

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2021, 04:49:05 PM »
Retitle the thread. I found some info.

Thefoilingcollective.com/product/axis-black-art-front-wing/

870mm 837cm^2
999mm 1038cm^2
1160mm 1385cm^2

All around 9+ AR

I just ordered a progressive 375 tail for my 999, hopefully itís good for a smaller ART as well. The 837 is the size Iíve been after, should glide amazing but also turn well.

Axis please add me to the research team ;)

Nice research Johnny. I'm actually intrigued with the 1160. I parted ways with my trusty 1150 a few months ago and have missed it now that we are into crap ass november light wind. I have been flailing a bit on the 999 in 10-12mph wind. I can confirm that the 375 progressive does pair nicely with the 999. Its way looser on the roll than my 380. Takes some getting used to. I have it all on the crazyshort which I may swap out for the ultrashort next time. I am also dealing with booties in straps which always bothers me. I have to disagree with Asylum saying that the 899 will be most popular. There are not that many wingers out there riding 800cm wings on a regular basis. I  Most venues are lighter wind and more suited to liftier front wings.
 I think I will spend a lot of days on the 1160. Imagine the glide of a large ART wing.

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2021, 11:06:08 PM »
Think that's a typo - the 899 and 799 are in the '22 catalogue, as is the 1160.

https://www.2xs.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Axis_22_brochure-1.pdf
I'm 5'10", 65kg riding:
Gong Lethal 4'6 65L
Gong Catch 5'3 34L
Gong Hipe v2 4'11 70L
Axis ART 999
Gong Fluid L-S, XXL-S on 85cm mast
Duotone Slick 3m, 4m, 5m

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2021, 07:28:50 AM »
Nice. I canít edit my post. Axis catalogue is definitely a better source.

1160 is 1387cm^2        9.97AR
999 is 1038 cm^2         9.9AR
899 is 850cm^2 actual  9.76AR
799 is 730cm^2 actual  9.05

Iím stoked on the small one to complement my 999, but I already have a 640cm high aspect foil. I think I need to polish and re anodize my fuselage which is all scratched up and oxidized to get the most out of these small fast guys. (Please make a carbon fuse)



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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2021, 08:15:04 AM »
Apparently things have changed slightly since that catalog went out. That was from back in July. I don't know exactly what. But don't take that catalog as gospel.

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2021, 08:43:56 AM »
Hmm I guess we'll have to wait and see unless someone can tell us.

I see at the end of the catalog p.36 the screw guide only has an 870 as the smallest ART.   :o

I donít envy axis having to figure out which wings to release and keeping it simple. Tons of people want smaller higher aspect wings (me) yet I think the 999 is too small for many wingers now, Iíve seen two for sale in the Bay Area where people said they were too small.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2021, 09:38:08 AM by JohnnyTsunami »

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2021, 10:56:34 AM »
Slight clarification here. There is a 799. I've heard of it, just not seen it personally. I just meant the CM2 numbers may be slightly different.

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2021, 11:38:50 AM »
Lots of testing of the various wings goes on before final sign off, and actual release of them...even the ones that might already be in a catalog, or possibly even seen on a beach somewhere. Or at least so I'm told anyway. 8):D
Me: 6'1"/185...5'1" Kings Foil Board...5'7" Kings Foil Board...9'6" Bob Pearson "Laird Noserider"...14' Lahui Kai "Manta"...8'0" WaveStorm if/when the proning urges still hit.

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2021, 06:07:22 AM »
I'm just glad Axis publish their volume numbers as well. It's volume that I probably use most to assess how much lifting grunt a foil has rather than area, which seems to be a less reliable size metric now that AR can vary so much between foils.
I'm 5'10", 65kg riding:
Gong Lethal 4'6 65L
Gong Catch 5'3 34L
Gong Hipe v2 4'11 70L
Axis ART 999
Gong Fluid L-S, XXL-S on 85cm mast
Duotone Slick 3m, 4m, 5m

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2021, 01:56:59 PM »
That catalog was an early release to distributors only from July. The actual sizes will be different.

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Re: The ART 899 and 799 thread
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2021, 03:12:39 PM »
As "flkiter" mentioned, the early catalog link posted here and elsewhere, "was an early release to distributors only from July", and not a final product brochure. The actual sizes and products may (or will be) slightly different upon their official release in the future.


Me: 6'1"/185...5'1" Kings Foil Board...5'7" Kings Foil Board...9'6" Bob Pearson "Laird Noserider"...14' Lahui Kai "Manta"...8'0" WaveStorm if/when the proning urges still hit.

 


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