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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #165 on: December 22, 2021, 12:10:45 PM »
Haha thank you for the clarification Bill.  I was more referring to a simple paper airplane for illustrational purposes. ;D
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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #166 on: December 22, 2021, 01:39:17 PM »
Maybe someday we will see computerized ailerons on smart foils with artificial intelligence.
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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #167 on: December 22, 2021, 10:18:36 PM »
Anybody wing with the 799 or 899 yet?

I'm trying to figure out what the low ends of these two wings are (as my flat water spot has a 100 yard stretch before the windline - if I don't have to schlogg the whole time it would help preserve what little sanity I have left).

I think I've topped out the 999 at around 23mph.  I want to go faster and one of these two are in my near term future...

I'm also wondering if they turn/roll easier (but the 999 is already a great turning foil for me - so much so that I am thinking about selling my Takuma Kujiras...).

Sorry - I just saw the 799/899 specific thread -
« Last Edit: December 22, 2021, 10:20:14 PM by Velasco »

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #168 on: December 23, 2021, 11:39:10 PM »
I got a chance to answer my own question today.  My dealer let me try out a 799 and an 899 so I could figure out which one would produce the results I am looking for (high wind, faster, tighter turning version of the 999).

I weigh 185#.  I had a Reedin SW X 4.2 up in 20 gusting to 30 winds.

In the gusts I could get the 799 on foil and I would try and open it up - but my spot has some holes where the wind gets light and the combo of holes, smaller foil and smaller wing made riding to find the top end of this wing challenging.

After an hour I switched the front foils out and had the 899 out in nearly the same conditions with the same wing and rear stabilizer.  The 899 is definitely more user friendly - almost as easy as the 999 - and I am probably stating the obvious but with the shorter span and narrower chord this foil rolls easier, surfs better and is faster.  It doesn't loose much of the low end and still comes down easy as you reach the stall speed (instead of crashing instantaneously like some other high aspect foils).

I'm going to put more time in on the 899, but I can tell this will compliment the 999 (which has much better glide, while still surfing well and is plenty fast).

I don't think the 799 would be practical for someone my weight - if I am out in 30+mph winds I'll likely put up my 3.6, so if I had intended on using the 799, I'd still be looking for the stronger gusts to take it up a level.  Definitely worth a shot if you are lighter looking for a heavy wind option.

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #169 on: December 24, 2021, 09:52:48 AM »
I don't think the 799 would be practical for someone my weight - if I am out in 30+mph winds I'll likely put up my 3.6, so if I had intended on using the 799, I'd still be looking for the stronger gusts to take it up a level.  Definitely worth a shot if you are lighter looking for a heavy wind option.
Just for a frame of reference of the two wings suping and not winging....

Took the 799 out on a fairly small day (knee to thigh high at best and mushy), and was able to get it up and out of the water surprisingly fast and easy, but at my 180# it was difficult to keep it in the air, and took a lot of pumping even down the line just to keep it aloft...which turned into mostly an exercise in futility.

Went in and threw the 899 on with the same 375P tail, and that was a whole different ball game. Still popped up easily, but was able to actually foil it with ease, and had a lot of fun on it.

Like you, I think the 799 will be fun in bigger/better conditions, but exactly what those will actually be still remain to be seen...we've had some really small days for the past month or more it seems, with not much surf on the horizon.  :(
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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #170 on: December 24, 2021, 10:28:58 AM »
Took the 799 out on a fairly small day (knee to thigh high at best and mushy), and was able to get it up and out of the water surprisingly fast and easy, but at my 180# it was difficult to keep it in the air, and took a lot of pumping even down the line just to keep it aloft...which turned into mostly an exercise in futility. . .

This is encouraging and totally surprising because I would assume the 799 would be too small.  I only have the Axis 999. I weigh 190#.  I have found that with a 6' board and 375P tail +1 degree I CAN take off in small 2 foot waves but immediately have to turn down the line.  Pumping works but you have to stay UP to speed.

With a 7' 4" board and NO shim the 999 allows for "Easy Peasy" takeoffs in 10 to 15 foot mushy waves.  It gets up SLOWLY and then you can just go hunting.  Really versatile.  I am intrigued by the 899 but again I am surprised the 799 flew that well. 

My data suggests that the comfortable FLIGHT speed on SUP Foil for the Axis 999 is 16 mph (w-375P no shim).  This is actually REALLY fast for cruise speed.  My other foils (GoFoil GL210 and NL190) cruise slightly slower say 13 and 14 mph respectively.  BUT what that additional 2 mph means is that I can catch UP to waves when they pass from shallow water back INTO deeper water.  With the GoFoils the waves would outrun me.  No longer with the Axis 999.  2 mph matters a HUGE amount. 
 
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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #171 on: April 08, 2023, 06:20:24 PM »
Anyone stateside looking to sell a used 999? I'll even buy one all scratched up for the right price. Mine died but dunt have the cash now for brand new replacement.

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #172 on: April 08, 2023, 07:01:23 PM »
Ya I got one. Race sanded in mint condition.....

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #173 on: April 09, 2023, 02:36:30 PM »
I am glad to see this thread back on the recent list! How's everyone feeling about they're 999's a year later? I mostly ride the 1099 on lake swell but the 999 saved me the other day in big surf in Santa Cruz on the wing. I'm trying to love my newly acquired 899 but she's a little fussy at times. I have really been enjoying winging HA foils on my custom 7'6" 80L kalama dw board. It makes takeoffs so effortless. Its like 50% less physical effort to get on foil. It weighs 10lbs, so way lighter than my 5' 80L Moon Buddy. Slices through the air effortlessly. I am stoked for the new ART that is rumored to be coming.

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #174 on: April 10, 2023, 11:15:43 AM »
Ya I got one. Race sanded in mint condition.....

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #175 on: April 10, 2023, 06:22:30 PM »
Hi Joe never got a PM from you......

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #176 on: April 11, 2023, 03:37:39 PM »
NOW you received the PM correct??
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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #177 on: April 14, 2023, 09:27:43 AM »
BUMP BUMP...
Anyone stateside looking to sell a used 999? I'll even buy one all scratched up for the right price. Mine died but dunt have the cash now for brand new replacement.

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #178 on: April 15, 2023, 01:50:28 AM »
I have a 1099 that Id like to trade for a 999

 


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