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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #135 on: November 08, 2021, 12:07:18 PM »
When the wind has horsepower, the 999 gets my 210 lbs lifted and flies wonderfully but a day like yesterday was just too light or I was doing something wrong.  The wind was actually perfect and steady but just light, even with my 6M.  So I came in and spotted Pono Bill, who lived up to his name.  He fetched his impact driver and like some race car pit crew we made short work of replacing the 999 with my trusty 1010.  Then I was up immediately, with not even any touch downs.  Amazing how a different wing but with less than an inch difference in wingspan, can generate so much more lift.

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #136 on: November 10, 2021, 05:53:37 PM »
I was really enjoying the KDMaui 13.5" and its just about the same size, so I guess when I get the angle dialed in it will be sweet.

The Progressives are the thinnest and lowest volume tails you can probably buy right now. Hard to compare to anything else. My calipers found it to be quite a bit thinner than my KDMaui tail.


Probably the 375 would be a better low end match.

Is the new 375 as quick as the 420 ?    (With the 999 front wing)

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #137 on: November 11, 2021, 03:11:51 AM »

Is the new 375 as quick as the 420 ?    (With the 999 front wing)

I think the 375 is faster.

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #138 on: November 12, 2021, 05:38:42 PM »
the 380 is faster than the 375

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #139 on: November 25, 2021, 11:39:37 PM »
I tried the 999 yesterday, 86 cm carbon mast short fuse 420 rear with a 3m2 wing.
I had a hard time jibing , this must be because of the flex of the the 999 ...
Also when  pumping with the wing flagged I was not in control and had to be very careful not to be too heavy footed.

I switched to the 930 and all was fine.
I will test the 999 again with an alu mast, perhaps the combined flex of the carbon mast and the 999  together with a meter span is just too much(for me @ 85kg)

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #140 on: November 25, 2021, 11:57:53 PM »
I will test the 999 again with an alu mast, perhaps the combined flex of the carbon mast and the 999  together with a meter span is just too much(for me @ 85kg)

I don't like my carbon masts with the 999. I confess I didn't think of the flexy feeling and reduced turning response to be the combination of wing and mast, I thought it was just all the mast twisting and flexing. It's an almost bizarrely sensitive wing to tuning changes. The tail choices have a huge effect, I think my short fuse is too long for it, and shimming the HA tail wings for a little more positive angle (rear screw) has a profound effect on both getting the foil up and turning.

It also works better for me pushed back further in the tracks. It's pretty much the only wing I have or had that works that way.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2021, 12:00:49 AM by PonoBill »
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #141 on: November 26, 2021, 05:27:46 AM »
Make sure your mast to fuse connection is tight. Iím not talking about the screws. You want the fuse to mast connection to press on. No wiggle.

Carbon surfaces wear. Everyone has to tune up older carbon parts to keep them tight. Itís very easy to tune up the Axis carbon mast head. A little epoxy on the side face of the head for just a little tightening. A layer of 4 oz fiberglass for more tightening. FYI 4oz fiberglass is .005 inches thick.

Same goes for all brands. GoFoil hex needs repotting. Armstrong needs repotting. Armstrong created the + system to delay the issue. But it will need tuning up eventually. Same with SAB mast head.

Carbon/epoxy matrix wears. A fact of life. Much easier to tune up than a loose aluminum connection.

This stuff matters as we go high performance, more than ever.

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #142 on: November 26, 2021, 09:16:40 AM »
Make sure your mast to fuse connection is tight. Iím not talking about the screws. You want the fuse to mast connection to press on. No wiggle.

Carbon surfaces wear. Everyone has to tune up older carbon parts to keep them tight. Itís very easy to tune up the Axis carbon mast head. A little epoxy on the side face of the head for just a little tightening. A layer of 4 oz fiberglass for more tightening. FYI 4oz fiberglass is .005 inches thick.

Same goes for all brands. GoFoil hex needs repotting. Armstrong needs repotting. Armstrong created the + system to delay the issue. But it will need tuning up eventually. Same with SAB mast head.

Carbon/epoxy matrix wears. A fact of life. Much easier to tune up than a loose aluminum connection.

This stuff matters as we go high performance, more than ever.
The connection between my carbon mast and my fuse is very very tight.
I have to lean on it with all my weight to get it in.

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Re: The ART 999 Thread
« Reply #143 on: November 26, 2021, 06:08:15 PM »
I actually added a layer of 1oz glass to mine, coated the inside of my loosest red fuselage with wax release, and pounded it on. My black fuselage is so tight I have to ease in the screws and then rock it, tightening as I go. I suspect that's not great for the fuselage, but so far, so good.
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