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Foil wing fiddling
« on: April 29, 2021, 09:24:44 AM »
After a lot of wing changing and fiddling in different conditions I've settled on the Axis 1000/390 tail for winging. I'm going to stick with that for the rest of this Maui wingfoiling season and quit fucking around with wings so I can concentrate on learning and getting better.

That may come as a surprise after all my praise for the 1150 and tentative appreciation for the 1300, and how much fun the 860 is, but they are all sort of special-purpose wings, and the 1000 always works.

I'm stating this as much as a reminder for myself, that if I optimize my use of a single wing and get fully comfortable with it, I can ignore the foil characteristics and concentrate on form and technique.
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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2021, 10:04:16 AM »
From all your previous posts I would hope you get on a steady routine of wing maintenance and repair. Wing fiddling.

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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2021, 06:02:42 PM »
After a lot of wing changing and fiddling in different conditions I've settled on the Axis 1000/390 tail for winging. I'm going to stick with that for the rest of this Maui wingfoiling season and quit fucking around with wings so I can concentrate on learning and getting better.

That may come as a surprise after all my praise for the 1150 and tentative appreciation for the 1300, and how much fun the 860 is, but they are all sort of special-purpose wings, and the 1000 always works.

I'm stating this as much as a reminder for myself, that if I optimize my use of a single wing and get fully comfortable with it, I can ignore the foil characteristics and concentrate on form and technique.
Less change the better. I use chopped 1250, 60 fuse, 85 mast and 15" KD tail for both ding and sup foil.

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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2021, 06:45:35 PM »
The 1000/390 is a tough setup to beat...both for winging (from what my winger guys are telling me), and as a nice sup foil setup when it's not macking. In waist size and below, it pops up on foil easily, glides great, turns really well for its length w/ and ultra short fuse, and pumps incredibly.

Now I prefer its smaller brother the 900 still paired with the 390 in the surf, but have a lot of guys still digging their 1000, and who do really well with it.
Me: 6'1"/185...5'1" Kings Foil Board...5'7" Kings Foil Board...9'6" Bob Pearson "Laird Noserider"...14' Lahui Kai "Manta"...8'0" WaveStorm if/when the proning urges still hit.

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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2021, 01:02:29 AM »
I've been using the 1000/390 for about a year off and on. I like fiddling with gear, but I think it's holding me back. I know pushing the 1150 in high wind makes for a jumpy ride but I do it because I like the wing in transitions. But after reflection, I realize I'm paying too much attention to what the wing is doing. I'm not developing wings, I'm trying to improve my foiling. So that's what I plan to concentrate on. One setup. Like Richard Feynman deciding his desert was always going to be chocolate ice cream. Saves on decisions.
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2021, 06:12:12 AM »
That's great that you have narrowed it down to an old iphone 6......but that one set up should definitely be a 1050/390 Black. The 1000 is sooo last year(light years in foilfroth time). Sorry in advance ;D

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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2021, 06:41:15 AM »
As another ex-1000 rider, my vote for the one-wing-make-everything-work foil is 1060/420

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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2021, 06:49:42 AM »
I've been using the 1000/390 for about a year off and on. I like fiddling with gear, but I think it's holding me back. I know pushing the 1150 in high wind makes for a jumpy ride but I do it because I like the wing in transitions. But after reflection, I realize I'm paying too much attention to what the wing is doing. I'm not developing wings, I'm trying to improve my foiling. So that's what I plan to concentrate on. One setup. Like Richard Feynman deciding his desert was always going to be chocolate ice cream. Saves on decisions.

I am guilty of this, i like changing things and tweaking them too much.
I am 100% sure i would be foiling way better if i stopped messing around and focused on improving my abilities and not the gear.

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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2021, 07:05:50 AM »
As another ex-1000 rider, my vote for the one-wing-make-everything-work foil is 1060/420
X2 Same here thats my fav winging set up hands down.Bill you gotta try the 1060/420 great big guy set up as well,especially in waves!and when is light day the 1120/420 the 1120 is a amazing wind wing for the HW wingers and for its size is very fun in the surf
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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2021, 07:07:30 AM »
When youre my age, always try new gear with one thing in mind. Do I ride better on this gear? Will this gear help me advance?

If not, I reject it immediately. Ive already reject lots of gear loved here. Stay focused on whats important.

Really good gear is easy, and surprisingly high performance sometimes.

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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2021, 08:15:40 AM »
Ive been at this for a year now from a non foiling windsurf/kitesurf background. I definitely think you can disappear down a rabbit hole with gear, changing, swapping foils and having good/bad days that could be the result of the swap or just could be you or different water conditions messing with u.

I am now down to a 1060/910 and 390 gap for all conditions and I just focussed on my skill. Im riding better, foot swap gybes 80% of the time. Once I can ride waves more consistently and tack, then I might think about the next set up.

Just like in windsurf and kitesurf, less gear/options means u just get out and ride rather than worry about going in and changing something.
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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2021, 10:21:04 AM »
Wow, I just told a bunch of crack dealers that I'm going to settle on a single flavor of crack.
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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2021, 05:36:14 PM »
That's great that you have narrowed it down to an old iphone 6......but that one set up should definitely be a 1050/390 Black. The 1000 is sooo last year(light years in foilfroth time). Sorry in advance ;D
Hahaha...yeah, the 1050 is a great wing also!! I prefer it with a little looser tail (either a cut 370, 420, or 380), but it's a surprisingly fun wing in small surf as well...so I can imagine it would be a great wingding wing. 👍🏽😁
Me: 6'1"/185...5'1" Kings Foil Board...5'7" Kings Foil Board...9'6" Bob Pearson "Laird Noserider"...14' Lahui Kai "Manta"...8'0" WaveStorm if/when the proning urges still hit.

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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2021, 08:41:11 PM »
You guys are all jerks. Haha.

Here Pono, Ill help you.

Hey guys I hear that 1000 is the hot new thing. Kane/Gunnar/Balz/Titouan (pick one) said its his new fav.

Guys, help Bill out and repost that in various versions lol. And remind me to never visit you guys fresh out of rehab.  :)

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Re: Foil wing fiddling
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2021, 08:47:41 AM »
Actually, I'm pretty happy with my choice, I'm making some progress. I chickened out yesterday and used the 1150 because the wind was light (used a 5.0 wing). I missed a couple of jibes that I should have made, at least in part because of the long glide characteristics of the 1150. Where I might have briefly touched with the 1000 and continued, I made it all the way through the jibe and stalled out during the foot switch with the 1150. From the standpoint of getting this stuff cemented into muscle memory, I think I'm better off foiling away from a jibe that's a little compromised than crashing after one that's better.
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

 


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