Author Topic: Learn on old foil or sell it and get low aspect foil?  (Read 2371 times)

Hilly

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Re: Learn on old foil or sell it and get low aspect foil?
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2021, 11:13:13 PM »
I'd hang onto the Kai. It's actually a pretty good wing for wingfoiling once you get proficient, and not out of the question for surfing. You'll find that the amount of lift you can get from a wing is related to your skill as much as your weight and that changes quickly. I'm about 220# and the largest wing I use is 1700 sq in. and the smallest is 1200. Someone mega-skilled like Kane (195#) would call those "beginner wings"--actually, he pretty much did one afternoon at the harbor, though not in a disparaging way at all. The Iwa is about 1600-1800 and the Kai is 1200-1300 (there are no official GoFoil area numbers, just third-party measurements). I wouldn't call myself intermediate--despite several years of experience. More like an advanced geezer beginner on a torturously long learning curve.
1700 sq in?? What brand is that? Massive.  ;)

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Re: Learn on old foil or sell it and get low aspect foil?
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2021, 01:03:28 AM »
Axis 1150 and 1300. Yup. The Axis 1000 is about 1300 projected. That's plenty for about everything I do.
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Re: Learn on old foil or sell it and get low aspect foil?
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2021, 01:09:10 PM »
Ha! yeah I moved from the naish to a go foil iwa. use the kai tail with it.  Really fun foil, and I felt like I improved a lot when I got it. 

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Re: Learn on old foil or sell it and get low aspect foil?
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2021, 05:17:45 PM »
Axis 1150 and 1300. Yup. The Axis 1000 is about 1300 projected. That's plenty for about everything I do.
PB, Axis numbers are in sq cm....1700 sq in is almost 11,000 sq cm.  :o

The 1000 is 1388 sq cm actual area - 1310 sq cm projected, and the 1150 is 1778 sq cm actual, and 1713 projected. So you got pretty darn close on the number...just the wrong units system.  ;D
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Re: Learn on old foil or sell it and get low aspect foil?
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2021, 09:09:47 AM »
Thanks everyone for your feedback.  So I'm planning to make my own track mount since I have the carbon and epoxy already.  But it's tuttle mount still been used? I wonder if it's worth making track mount detectable from the tuttle for resale value or just permanently bond the track mount on top of the tuttle. I guess the benefit is going to be easier to make the mount but loss the tuttle option?  Since like only GoFoil offer tuttle and most people are using track mount.

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Re: Learn on old foil or sell it and get low aspect foil?
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2021, 09:17:26 AM »
Thanks everyone for your feedback.  So I'm planning to make my own track mount since I have the carbon and epoxy already.  But it's tuttle mount still been used? I wonder if it's worth making track mount detectable from the tuttle for resale value or just permanently bond the track mount on top of the tuttle. I guess the benefit is going to be easier to make the mount but loss the tuttle option?  Since like only GoFoil offer tuttle and most people are using track mount.

Tuttle is dead. No added value, just added weight. Further proof…..2021 Slingshot “windsurf” boards have gone to tracks. Every windsurfer at our beach, wishes they had tracks.

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Re: Learn on old foil or sell it and get low aspect foil?
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2021, 12:13:43 PM »
Axis 1150 and 1300. Yup. The Axis 1000 is about 1300 projected. That's plenty for about everything I do.
PB, Axis numbers are in sq cm....1700 sq in is almost 11,000 sq cm.  :o

The 1000 is 1388 sq cm actual area - 1310 sq cm projected, and the 1150 is 1778 sq cm actual, and 1713 projected. So you got pretty darn close on the number...just the wrong units system.  ;D

I completely missed Hilly's point. Oh well. I'll blame it on spellcheck. Of course, I know it's metric, I don't think anyone specs foil area in square inches. I REALLY wish the USA had switched to metric when we sort of tried to switch in 1975. I'd be happy to give up inches.
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Re: Learn on old foil or sell it and get low aspect foil?
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2021, 12:21:03 PM »
For what it's worth, without a good installation and a quality track, tracks are junk. That's semi-true for Tuttle as well but a little less so since Tuttle is always intended to be installed connecting the deck to the bottom--though it can be done poorly as well. But yeah, the foil version of the betamax vs. VHS war is over and VHS won.
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