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Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« on: April 08, 2021, 09:17:44 AM »
I saw this on FB and it looked like a 'kinder' hook than any of the other metal hooks I've seen.  He says it's light weight but doesn't mention the material.   I like the shape and rounded edges.  But as Letterman always said, will it gouge?

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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2021, 09:59:04 AM »
Looks like plastic.  Should be fine unless jumping to the moon.
NSI makes something similar:

https://www.mackiteboarding.com/nsi-wind-ding-free-foil-hook/
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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2021, 02:35:19 PM »
looks like 3D printed material
The NSI one is routed out of billet and is probably stronger.  But weight tradeoff here is negligible so if its beefed up enough, it looks like it will work just as well.

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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2021, 02:36:21 PM »
I made my own version of that  with a nylon 2cm thick cutting board.
Pretty much the same shape, works perfectly well,no dings when getting on board and you can paddle prone in a hurry without moving it aside.It just folds flat.
Perfect for the wing.

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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2021, 02:40:34 PM »
I would think hard plastic and hard metal will have the same dinging effect on a surfboard, especially a custom.

I can't find my dakine chameleon and have been using the old ozone v1 one size harness and I really don't like how floppy and flexy it is, hooking in doesn't has the same solid feel.

Has a hook that folds 90 degrees been tried?  recessed into a padded layer that will protect the board...  Maybe even have one of those locking type pins on knives to keep it from accidentally collapsing and trapping the harness line...
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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2021, 02:49:43 PM »
I would think hard plastic and hard metal will have the same dinging effect on a surfboard, especially a custom.

I can't find my dakine chameleon and have been using the old ozone v1 one size harness and I really don't like how floppy and flexy it is, hooking in doesn't has the same solid feel.

Has a hook that folds 90 degrees been tried?  recessed into a padded layer that will protect the board...  Maybe even have one of those locking type pins on knives to keep it from accidentally collapsing and trapping the harness line...


I have used metal and my board has the scars to prove it,and i was careful.But when conditions get rough,or you are  tired or in a hurry...

The  nylon hook i am using now is completely harmless to the board,other plastics like ABS i don't know.

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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2021, 02:10:33 AM »
Yeah, I think beyond the plastic itís that it will fold over due to the lack of a wide base.

These are exactly what I was dreaming of. 3D printed vs CNC is interesting. Someone test this.

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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2021, 07:17:34 PM »
Yeah, I think beyond the plastic itís that it will fold over due to the lack of a wide base.

These are exactly what I was dreaming of. 3D printed vs CNC is interesting. Someone test this.
Yep.  I think you're right but placing let's say three of them together or fashioning a wider base ???

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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2021, 09:54:03 PM »
Yeah, I think beyond the plastic itís that it will fold over due to the lack of a wide base.

These are exactly what I was dreaming of. 3D printed vs CNC is interesting. Someone test this.
Yep.  I think you're right but placing let's say three of them together or fashioning a wider base ???

Noooo...don't do that.
When sailing it stays perfectly...er...erect :) and does not move around at all.
It only flops sideways if you lay prone on it but this is a very good thing,you can paddle out through some foamies ,stand up and foil away without fiddling with the hook at all.Or do the Stinkbug start.
It can also be slid sideways if you need to padle for a longer time,like getting back in if wind drops completely.

It is a very simple design but it works brilliantly.

And no need for superstrong fancy plastic, like i said mine was made with a 2cm thick nylon cutting board (chinese cheapo) .I have used it on overpowered 4m days and it is plenty strong enough,the forces of the wing are just so puny compared to a kite or windsurf sail.

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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2021, 11:22:31 AM »
I made my own version of that  with a nylon 2cm thick cutting board.
Pretty much the same shape, works perfectly well,no dings when getting on board and you can paddle prone in a hurry without moving it aside.It just folds flat.
Perfect for the wing.
Will you post a picture?  Thanks

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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2021, 11:38:27 AM »
I made my own version of that  with a nylon 2cm thick cutting board.
Pretty much the same shape, works perfectly well,no dings when getting on board and you can paddle prone in a hurry without moving it aside.It just folds flat.
Perfect for the wing.
Will you post a picture?  Thanks

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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2021, 09:28:48 AM »
Yeah, I was saying that it would flop over as a good thing. The pull will keep it upright and it'll be easy to hook but if you laid on the board you could fold it over, unlike one with a base.

I think this is really the right answer here.

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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2021, 10:07:04 AM »
I think cowboy is right. As much as I like my Dakine Maniac hook, every time I crawl up onto the board and forget or neglect to move the hook aside I'm digging at my board. I haven't done any obvious damage yet, but it can't be good. Yesterday the southside in Maalea Bay was a maelstrom. I fell on almost every jibe and I was using my harness on every reach. In the distraction of getting the shit beaten out of me every time I was down in the water I forgot to slide the hook most times. I can see little dents in my pad where I crawled up and dragged the hook.

Like the graduate--"Plastics is the answer". I may be dating myself. 
« Last Edit: April 15, 2021, 10:10:06 AM by PonoBill »
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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2021, 07:23:35 PM »
I am liking the Maniac hook BUT I consciously do this ACT every time before getting on the board:

1) Find the board leash and climb over it underwater so it's behind me
2) Slide the Maniac hook to the STERN of the board.  IT's easier to grab it from behind, with free back hand, to center if I forget.
3) Hold the wing handle in my hand and climb on board
4) Get to knees and center the maniac hook
5) Stand up and fly

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Re: Anyone seen this harness hook before?
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2021, 10:37:54 PM »
No question it's a great hook, easy in and out, and no accidental releases. I need to be a little more disciplined. Or get a lesser hook that compensates for my limited attention span.
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