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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #105 on: December 07, 2022, 11:17:39 PM »
Thanks Johnny,
I needed that visual to make sense of what is going on there.  That is a cool way of shimming.

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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #106 on: December 07, 2022, 11:26:03 PM »
OK, but now you've created a 1mm gap between mast and fuse junction just forward of the shim (won't mention the hydrodynamic drag).

I believe the gap is behind the shim, forcing the tail section of the fuse down, flattening the rear foil for less negative incidence.  Three forward securing the mast with more torque, one back with less torque flexing in the set shim angle.
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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #107 on: December 09, 2022, 11:40:42 AM »
I'm really glad I'm wrong and you CAN adjust a tail angle on the Mike's lab!

Still surprised that the tails are so large on that setup. I am addicted to tiny low drag tails

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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #108 on: December 13, 2022, 01:38:22 PM »
The tail wing seen on most ML foils these days has a span of 320 mm. It's tiny. And ML foils don't cost $3500 as previously stated, thankfully.

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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #109 on: December 15, 2022, 02:07:38 PM »
Thank you for all the questions and comments!  We did cover most of the topics in the interview, even though I did not see your questions until after the interview (I guess did not refresh the page and thought there were no questions posted).
Still, the interview has some great information and I'll post it this Saturday.  The interview with Ken Winner was excellent as well and that one will post on 12/24. 

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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #110 on: December 15, 2022, 03:44:29 PM »
Hi Robert!! Just saw your latest video "Wing Foil Gear Talk: foils for racing and Jimmy Lewis foil boards". You're gonna love that ML foil. It's actually not the Bullet 6 as you call it in the video. The Bullet 6 is a kite racing foil with a surface area of 520 cm2 or thereabouts. Your foil is a wing specific foil that people refer to as a "600" or "ML 600" with a surface area of 600 cm2. Just an FYI to those who are ordering ML foils be warned of this difference. Unless you are an 18 year old French or Italian kid you probably don't want a 520 cm2 foil for winging.

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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #111 on: December 16, 2022, 05:03:25 PM »
Hi Robert!! Just saw your latest video "Wing Foil Gear Talk: foils for racing and Jimmy Lewis foil boards". You're gonna love that ML foil. It's actually not the Bullet 6 as you call it in the video. The Bullet 6 is a kite racing foil with a surface area of 520 cm2 or thereabouts. Your foil is a wing specific foil that people refer to as a "600" or "ML 600" with a surface area of 600 cm2. Just an FYI to those who are ordering ML foils be warned of this difference. Unless you are an 18 year old French or Italian kid you probably don't want a 520 cm2 foil for winging.
Yes, you are right about that, my foil is the ML 600, I was confused by the website.
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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #112 on: December 17, 2022, 10:57:36 AM »
I'm loving my new Mike's Lab 600 foil and had a chance to interview the wizards behind these foils:
https://youtu.be/mvDhQQ5ugBM
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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #113 on: December 20, 2022, 07:18:33 AM »
I'm really looking for forward to your interview with Ken Winner.  I think I read his book "The Wind is Free" back in the late Seventies -- he didn't mention the cost of the equipment in the book.  I once owned a Bick windsurfer board named after him.  It's great that he's still heavily involved in wind sports.

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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #114 on: December 24, 2022, 11:03:25 AM »
Happy Holidays!
If you're interested in wing design and the history of our young sport you will enjoy this interview with Ken Winner:

https://youtu.be/nUn5OXNWluY
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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #115 on: March 18, 2023, 01:58:47 PM »
Today's guest is James Casey, who also has a great podcast, the Casey Catchup. He's an amazing athlete, holds the record for the most kilometers foiled in one day and is the 2019 M2O champion (solo SUP). He's a great coach for anyone who wants to get into downwind foiling and he also invented the sport of winging upwind and then deflating and foiling downwind. We talk about his background, the Molokai to Oahu race to be held on July 30th, 2023, board and foil design, and more.

https://youtu.be/bZjyjEuSiIg
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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #116 on: March 18, 2023, 04:29:00 PM »

 and he also invented the sport of winging upwind and then deflating and foiling downwind.

https://youtu.be/bZjyjEuSiIg
I'm pretty sure I invented going up wind and deflating (popping) my wing and going downwind. 

Okay I see now, you're saying he was "foiling" downwind. My version is more flopping and floundering downwind.

Loving your interviews, keep up the good work Robert
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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #117 on: April 22, 2023, 10:40:20 AM »
This is a long one but I found it very interesting and entertaining:

Jimmy Lewis interview-surf, windsurf, kite, foil and wingfoil shaper on the Blue Planet Show #26
https://youtu.be/oGML1rBvUr4
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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #118 on: May 12, 2023, 02:36:23 PM »
This is a long one but I found it very interesting and entertaining:
Jimmy Lewis interview-surf, windsurf, kite, foil and wingfoil shaper on the Blue Planet Show #26

This was great.  Especially after having made some boards.  I listened to the end.

Some takeaways:

2:23:20:  Rockered tail and ROUND edges cause board to STICK to water and allow for nose riding.  Water running over a curved surface pulls it DOWN, it doesn’t release it. . .

2:28: 15:  Sharper edge hitting the water BETTER than round, less drag.

2:58:00 – Knee dents, not on my decks

"Ever since I have been shaping I have taught anybody, anything about what I do . . I never lost a day of work despite how successful they got.  I don’t feel threatened by anyone and happy to share how I glass, how I shape . . . "

I just bought the video by Greg Loehr "Lamination 101."  It is 30 years old but has some good stuff.  Given the last quote above from Jimmy Lewis he might do the world a bit of good if he too were to make a board building video.
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Re: Blue Planet Show- Wing Foil interviews
« Reply #119 on: May 13, 2023, 07:25:27 AM »
I love it.  He is talking about his flat bottom boards which are again, "planing" style boards for a lack of a better term.  Both the flat bottom (forward) and the angled chined edges (regardless of degree) drive flow downwards (base) and downwards/outwards on the angled rails.  This is very slow untill the lift he describes is achieved, then the advantage shows.  Displacement designs direct flow around the board, never under or downward/outwards if well done.  This is fastest at slow speeds and gives up advantage as lift is achieved on the planing designs.  As for the tail, if you have directed water under a flat, broad base and then rocker the tail the flow will follow that rocker *while laminar* and just like an inverted foil (stabilzer) will create upwash on release.  But that is both speed and AOA dependent.  What works at small wave longboard speed may not have any aplicability at the speed for your foil sport of choice. 
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