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Kip

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Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« on: October 24, 2020, 04:45:11 PM »
Well, I guess I’m glad I didn’t delete my account after all  sorry to any of you who noticed my drunken Jay and Silent bob rap post ... im a moron haha

Anyways, I have a PVC blend board and noticed this crack in it today.
I can’t recall bumping it against anything. It is probable that I whacked it with my paddle on a 30+mph downwind day.

I also have another little crack in the top from I-don’t-know-what.

I generally carry it in bag, have dakine pads, and try to be careful during transport. 

I haven’t noticed any water getting in or any additional weight, but applied a thin layer of epoxy as a precaution (not shown in photo - and doesn’t look awesome, but logic tells me it will seal the crack if there was a risk).

Just wondering how often this happens to you all and what y’all do for maintaining on stuff like this. It’s gonna end up being a spendy sport if I’m dropping 2K + on boards and then they’re getting thrashed the same year!

Thanks in advance. You guys are great.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2020, 05:32:30 PM by Kip »
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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2020, 03:53:54 AM »
Bumps happen....

I never trust Epoxy alone.... even though it very flexible.
Being a lazy repair guy, I generally just throw a good quality sticker over any minor damage. or you could use Gorilla tape or something similar.
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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2020, 05:19:04 AM »
My first thought when I saw it was 'sticker or rub tape' but thought it a cheezy suggestion in this highly professional forum   ...but, now that Ricky said it. 

Besides, how much would you weaken the lamiate to get-onto-it with power tools, dissimilar chemistry, etc  ...perhaps only to end up with a barnacle perhaps soon to fall off.  Take it to a pro if you consider it terribly precious.

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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2020, 07:44:38 AM »
Good to know!

I like the hood sticker idea.

Appreciate the feedback.
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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2020, 12:32:01 PM »
I've pretty much quit doing traditional repairs after weighing one of my boards after repairing several dings. Three relatively small repairs added a pound. I use aluminum tape for all repairs now, and it doesn't add enough weight to measure the difference, even with a fairly precise three-sensor digital scale. If you use a credit card to burnish the tape flat and use two layers it's pretty much a permanent repair. Not pretty--unless you like shiny stuff--but effective.
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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2020, 05:31:41 PM »
I've pretty much quit doing traditional repairs after weighing one of my boards after repairing several dings. Three relatively small repairs added a pound. I use aluminum tape for all repairs now, and it doesn't add enough weight to measure the difference, even with a fairly precise three-sensor digital scale. If you use a credit card to burnish the tape flat and use two layers it's pretty much a permanent repair. Not pretty--unless you like shiny stuff--but effective.

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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2020, 06:10:22 PM »
I don't think the crack goes through the PVC. It would be a more torn apart looking break if it actually went into the PVC. I've seen this recently on an epoxy longboard that I pickup for free, but the fin box needed to be replaced. I gave it to Kernel to have fun with. The whole deck had these long stress cracks about 3 to 4 inches long. They run in the rail to rail direction and they were in in groups of 3 or 4 spaced about 1/2" apart. Like the board had been flexed beyond it's limit and the hot coat cracked. The board had a ton of them but didn't appear to have taken on water.
Kernel has already been out surfing it.
You could sand it, and just throw a little epoxy and glass over it. You'll never see it.
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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2020, 06:39:43 PM »
. Itís gonna end up being a spendy sport if Iím dropping 2K + on boards and then theyíre getting thrashed the same year!
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Thatís not thrashed lol. Ask me and Pono for some pics of our gear. I purposely didnít finish my last board that well just so I could not worry if it got scratched.

 But sadly, and ironically the higher end the board, the easier they tend to be to damage. If youíve ever owned a polyester resin surfboard you know. If not, and if youíre coming from kayaks or canoes then sort of think if you were carrying the hood of your new car around and laying it on a rocky shore or beach. Yeah, itís almost that bad.

In good news (bad news?) most dings happen in transit and not in the water. But thereís a reason the Shape Shack is a popular board here.

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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2020, 07:41:50 PM »
. Itís gonna end up being a spendy sport if Iím dropping 2K + on boards and then theyíre getting thrashed the same year!

Thatís not thrashed lol. Ask me and Pono for some pics of our gear. I purposely didnít finish my last board that well just so I could not worry if it got scratched.

 But sadly, and ironically the higher end the board, the easier they tend to be to damage. If youíve ever owned a polyester resin surfboard you know. If not, and if youíre coming from kayaks or canoes then sort of think if you were carrying the hood of your new car around and laying it on a rocky shore or beach. Yeah, itís almost that bad.

In good news (bad news?) most dings happen in transit and not in the water. But thereís a reason the Shape Shack is a popular board here.
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Thanks dude !

Iíve never really had experience with water craft or Carbon shit coming from an ultra running background, so There it is! Do little repairs and ride it till I canít !

P.s. would love to see what thrashed really looks like haha
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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2020, 07:46:02 PM »
I've pretty much quit doing traditional repairs after weighing one of my boards after repairing several dings. Three relatively small repairs added a pound. I use aluminum tape for all repairs now, and it doesn't add enough weight to measure the difference, even with a fairly precise three-sensor digital scale. If you use a credit card to burnish the tape flat and use two layers it's pretty much a permanent repair. Not pretty--unless you like shiny stuff--but effective.

I like that ! Thanks for the idea man!
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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2020, 07:52:36 PM »
TallDude,

If I had any idea how to glass or what that even is, Iíd totally do it  haha ;D

I just did a thin layer of epoxy, put some packing tape over it, let it set, removed the tape, did an ultra fine sanding. Probably gonna rope it with a sticker cause it doesnít look profesh, but hey! Iím learning. I like PonoBills idea too. Iíll just have to ride this SOB till I break it on a HONKINí Downwind day

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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2020, 08:24:07 PM »
For the small top crack I dabbed a little epoxy, applied some electrical tape, let it set, sanded it down. And then applied this SICK ASS STICKER!

Thanks guys
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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2020, 10:54:58 AM »
The link is empty.

Yes, Admin gets hives just looking at my boards. I recently applied a neatly trimmed piece of aluminum tape to a leaker ding Chan got in her foilboard. They both looked at me like I had farted loudly. I'm reasonably certain they replaced the board.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 11:02:12 AM by PonoBill »
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2020, 08:46:58 PM »
Letís see if that works.

One more question for you guys while I have you here (and while Iím screwing up my board 😂 lol).

I was doing this little sticker fix and decided to install another handle and the screws were stripping a bit so I was pushing hard, slipped, the tip of the drill punctured the deck pad and went in maybe 1/4 inch. Pulled the pad back, filled the hole with epoxy and then put the pad back down. Sufficient ? Idk why Iím banging up this board.

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Re: Are cracks in PVC fairly common ?
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2020, 10:09:33 PM »
Sufficient ?
If it leaks, then no.
It's not overhead to me!
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