Wing with boom & strut vs. wing with boom but no centre strut

Started by deja vu, September 15, 2020, 01:39:32 PM

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deja vu

Personally I prefer a boom and I'm currently using 4 and 6 metre Wasps with a carbon boom and prefer it to the Wasps with just handles.  I also have a 5 metre Duotone Echo.  At the moment I prefer the Wasps with boom to the Echo but this may change.

Here's a comparison of the Hot Wings Maui wing (centre strut + boom) and the V1 Duotone (boom with no centre strut).  The V2 Duotone was a definite upgrade so the comparison isn't 100% fair but it does show just how well wings with centre struts + boom do work.

I have to say if the Hot Wings Maui wings were sold locally where I am I'd definitely take a close look.


jondrums

I'm interested to hear how you refit your wasps with boom.  you got me looking online and I only found a couple references to retrofits - this guy selling a kit on ebay looks the most interesting

deja vu

Your link would not work for me.  Here's the setup:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ozone-WASP-carbon-boom-for-4M-wing/143646840922?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225074%26meid%3Db6d50a8ca05f422fa8dc3f4cfba98f34%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D133454132435%26itm%3D143646840922%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

I replaced the strap that wraps around the strut with the one that comes with the Wasp (used to tie it together for packing, which is much longer) since the 6 metre Wasp has a much bigger middle strut.  I also replaced the boom (pole) with a 48" one for the 6 metre Wasp (it'll also work for the 5 metre Wasp).  The boom (pole) that came with it will work for both the 3 and 4 metre Wasps.

The centre strut of the Wasp seems to tame the wing when pulling it to you after a breach (it is easier to control).  My 5 metre Echo is all over the place (flipping over etc.) until I actually get my hands on it.

jondrums

nice - same link I tried to put on there!

I'm planning on making my own version of this with an old paddle shaft I have lying around.  It really seems like a boom makes so much more sense.

Hilly

As an old windsurfer I love being liberated from carrying crap around. Handles rock - small pack up and easy setup. I walk a couple of hundred metres with my gear to the beach so less is more.

deja vu

So mini booms or two long stiff handles that pack right up may be for you -- innovation keeps right on trucking -- out with the old and in with the new:


deja vu

Here's a "how to" video with the rider using a wing that has been retrofitted with what looks like one-half of a windsurfing boom -- you end up with a wing with a centre strut and a control handle (boom).  I believe there will be more wings like the Hot Wings Maui ones that have both the centre strut and a control handle/boom.


deja vu

Another how to replace handles with a boom video -- looks simple and effective.  At the end of his video he shows how he turned his hat into a semi-helmet -- great idea. Necessity is the mother of invention!  BTW I know of one winger and one kite foiler who have died in the last 10 days doing what they loved -- a helmet and an impact/flotation device is something to think about wearing.

youtube.com/watch?v=l11PZ2ChdAg

Wetstuff

D-V... Could you add a little light on the two fatalities?  Woah...

And, there is a ballcap liner that would not likely help much with heavy concussive impact but looks like it would stop penetration.

https://www.amazon.com/Ergodyne-Universal-Lightweight-Baseball-8945/dp/B07RXVVTL1/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1TAISZPD3TCAV&dchild=1&keywords=ball+cap+liner+protection&qid=1606330223&sprefix=ball+cap+liner%2Caps%2C139&sr=8-2

Jim
Atlantis Mistress .. Blue Planet MultiTasker ..   Atlantis Venom

deja vu

One was an Australian who apparently died while out winging a few days ago.  I have no idea what the circumstances were.  The other was a kite foiler who was out near Toronto on Lake Ontario a week ago last Sunday in really big winds.  He apparently was an expert but got hit with an exceptionally big gust and got literally flattened by his kite -- the paramedics got a heart beat back but he died shortly thereafter -- he was in his fifties.  I saw a video on Youtube of what Lake Ontario looked like that day and it was scary -- I've windsurfed Lake Ontario in pretty big winds but no way would I go out when it looked the way it did in that video.