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Tack sequence
« on: August 06, 2020, 11:07:07 AM »
I took this pic yesterday after my oil change for my car.  Actually three pics I jungle spliced together to help me grasp the 'tack'  The rider is a local boardmaker, who also made most of our downwind boards back when we did that and now produces foil boards.  Mark Raaphorst.  He's fairly adept on foil and quick with wing changes with both jibes and tacks.  Wind yesterday was filled into the beach at 30-40mph so he was able to be within range for my crappy cell phone camera to get a reasonable capture.  My cam went to B&W for some reason, which pissed me off, so I tweaked it to sepia for better contrast. He's on a sub 6' board that he of course made and an axis 1000.  Don't know which stab or fuse he used. 

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Re: Tack sequence
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2020, 12:48:10 PM »
I have completed exactly one tack on foil so the struggles are pretty fresh in my mind.  There is a recent thread with more experienced people commenting and some videos people have posted but here are my basics for taking this on.

1.  For most people, it is easier to go from toe side to heel side (the opposite of your pictures)

2.  Practice the wing movement on land without a bunch of wind at first so it becomes second nature. 

3.  Both hands should be palm down.

4.  I start heading up wind with some speed then vigorously bring the wing over.  That upper body movement helps you carve into and across the wind as you switch hands to repower your wing.  When I fail, it is usually because I cannot get my back hand onto the handle quickly enough and I fall backwards.

That's really all I know.  Most of my attempts are still failures but my success rate is very slowly improving.

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Re: Tack sequence
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2020, 03:02:08 PM »
Phils - about my understanding too. I'm actually trying to learn heel side to toe side first mainly because it's the way I windsurf tacked and also as my toe side riding isn't that great - I intentionally learnt to switch feet after gybing when I learnt to gybe as riding switch was never a problem for me.

My point of failure is the same as  yours - falling backwards due to not grabbing back hand quickly enough. Just not getting through the wind enough so the rear handle is behind my head rather than above my shoulder. Need to keep on keeping on!
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Re: Tack sequence
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2020, 07:16:48 AM »
Here are two clips showing my tack techniques.  May prove helpful to others thanks to the POV.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFZXB-Yj1Av/?igshid=1u66tq0j4po4w


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Re: Tack sequence
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2020, 01:01:19 PM »
Whoa, tacks both ways! Good job.

Had another session on my 100cm mast, then switched to the 85cm. Wholly crap, 85 feels so high performance, fast, and responsive. 100cm really numbs things down. Easier to ride longer.

Maybe we’ve been wrong all these years telling newbies to start on a short mast.

The 100cm will get used just for crazy days.

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Re: Tack sequence
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2020, 01:10:47 PM »
Here are two clips showing my tack techniques.  May prove helpful to others thanks to the POV.

Noticed the front strap.   Are you foot switching during a session?

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Re: Tack sequence
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2020, 02:05:08 PM »
Here are two clips showing my tack techniques.  May prove helpful to others thanks to the POV.

Noticed the front strap.   Are you foot switching during a session?

Still only rocking the single surf stance.  It's very comfortable for me.   Eventually I will learn riding switch.  It would come in handy for long upwind treks trying to get far upwind.  Haven't had too many of those situations, so no need for me yet.  I can hop on a skateboard and do a switch stance kickflip, so there is hope. 
I’m a 5’9” 65kg rider:

Boards:
   4'5.5" 33L Armstrong
   4’10” 37L FSM
   5'1" 74L FSM
   5’11” 100L FSM

Foils: Armstrong 800, 1050, 1550, 1850, 2400
Wings: BRM 2M-6M

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Re: Tack sequence
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2020, 03:01:31 PM »
I'm still only claiming one tack, and that was an accident, but I felt I could have done some today on my smaller board--a 6.0'X28.5" SIC Manta. I got close--I just turned hard into the wind and didn't pay any attention to the wing, just focused on finishing the turn. I did that twice, ate it both times trying to switch the wing, but I made the turn.
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: Tack sequence
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2020, 04:40:24 PM »
I’ve got 54 hours on the water according to my Waterspeed app. Not to say that I’ve been trying tacks for any significant portion of that time.  I’d try a few here and there but not really try and focus on them. The last two days the wind was good and The BRM wings really make it more fun and user friendly during the hand change through the eye of the wind.
I’m a 5’9” 65kg rider:

Boards:
   4'5.5" 33L Armstrong
   4’10” 37L FSM
   5'1" 74L FSM
   5’11” 100L FSM

Foils: Armstrong 800, 1050, 1550, 1850, 2400
Wings: BRM 2M-6M

 


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