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Re: Go Foil : Axis : Armstrong : Signature : Cloud IX: ??
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2020, 08:17:05 AM »
Thatspec,

I will force you to try the 900/390.  Clear up some budget.  This combo is going to burn your barn down.

I'll take you up on that at some point Admin, thanks! If my barn burns down I can use the insurance money for more gear ;D

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Re: Go Foil : Axis : Armstrong : Signature : Cloud IX: ??
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2020, 11:21:20 AM »
You've got to try the 1000 before you buy a 910. Holy shit, is it good. I might use the 1010 for downwind, and I bought a 1150 as part of my "let's go crazy" purchase with the hope that it magically makes it possible for me to SUP downwind, but I suspect I'll be spending a lot of time on the 1000 and probably the 900.

For winging, I was going to get 1150.... but you say the 1000 is magical. I want to ride swell and waves with wing and move faster than on my 1020 .... but still want a good amount of user-friendliness (easy lift etc). Might want to use to SUP foil, too. Do you think the 1000 is a good step down (step up?) from 1020 and good choice to consider instead of 1150?
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Re: Go Foil : Axis : Armstrong : Signature : Cloud IX: ??
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2020, 11:58:17 AM »
Geez Louise.....people pick up on all these hints.

Nobody can tell you want wing YOU will like.

There are two design trends. FLAT wings, for no compromise pumping ability at the expense of all else. If pumping like KDMaui is your goal, these are must-have wings.

If how a wing surfs is more important, then flat wings surf like turds to you. You chose the joy of carving over pumping.

Both in one wing does not exist.

Pick your compromise. We canít do it for you.

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Re: Go Foil : Axis : Armstrong : Signature : Cloud IX: ??
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2020, 06:12:26 PM »
OMG.....this got my attention. Neil Pryde foils are still my all time favorite carving foils. Add in some pump and glide and dreams may come true.


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Re: Go Foil : Axis : Armstrong : Signature : Cloud IX: ??
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2020, 06:36:33 PM »
You've got to try the 1000 before you buy a 910. Holy shit, is it good. I might use the 1010 for downwind, and I bought a 1150 as part of my "let's go crazy" purchase with the hope that it magically makes it possible for me to SUP downwind, but I suspect I'll be spending a lot of time on the 1000 and probably the 900.

For winging, I was going to get 1150.... but you say the 1000 is magical. I want to ride swell and waves with wing and move faster than on my 1020 .... but still want a good amount of user-friendliness (easy lift etc). Might want to use to SUP foil, too. Do you think the 1000 is a good step down (step up?) from 1020 and good choice to consider instead of 1150?

Bear in mind the 910, 1010, and 1150 have lift well beyond their stated cm2. After some time now on the 1010 I've learned to carve with it just fine and even make tight turns within a swell downwinding (some are even coordinated turns). It is initially a very different feel from the mid aspect wings with significant anhedral but I doubt I would be satisfied with the mid aspect stuff again, the 1010 has become the compromise for me.

The 1000 and 900 just by their design (some anhedral and high aspect) might actually bridge the two wing styles. Both are a step down from the 1010 but hard to say which is the best jump.

The 1150 probably has at least as much lift and low end as the 1020 but more glide and even slower role rate than the 1010.  It's a specialty item certainly, as mentioned it will be a game changer for big guys downwind paddling.

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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2020, 07:01:38 PM »
I think the 1150 is going to suck toads for winging. I could be wrong, but it seems like it will turn even worse than the 1010--which takes a fair amount of effort to turn. The longer a high aspect wing is, the weirder it will be in a turn. If the turn is tight enough the wingtip on the inside of the turn is barely moving and the one on the outside is going fast. They don't really bank, they just roll on their side. My turns on the 1010 are so slow I probably look like I was planning on downwinding and changed my mind.
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2020, 07:16:27 PM »
I think the 1150 is going to suck toads for winging. I could be wrong, but it seems like it will turn even worse than the 1010--which takes a fair amount of effort to turn. The longer a high aspect wing is, the weirder it will be in a turn. If the turn is tight enough the wingtip on the inside of the turn is barely moving and the one on the outside is going fast. They don't really bank, they just roll on their side. My turns on the 1010 are so slow I probably look like I was planning on downwinding and changed my mind.
Bill all due respect hope your wrong as Iím already $800 in the hole on the 1150 waiting for it arrive to compliment my 1020 for a bit more speed and higher end range,not sure what I was thinking really as you know Iím not the biggest fan of HA wings but all Iíve tried are the GF GL series and maybe with some stroke of luck I might like the Axisís HA version,now you got me thinking about the 1000 Lol
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Re: Go Foil : Axis : Armstrong : Signature : Cloud IX: ??
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2020, 11:50:58 PM »
OMG.....this got my attention.

One of us ... one of us ...

Haha I loved those two posts back to back. Also those are the wings kdmaui designed. Very interesting.

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Re: Go Foil : Axis : Armstrong : Signature : Cloud IX: ??
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2020, 03:36:24 AM »
I think the 1150 is going to suck toads for winging. I could be wrong, but it seems like it will turn even worse than the 1010--which takes a fair amount of effort to turn. The longer a high aspect wing is, the weirder it will be in a turn. If the turn is tight enough the wingtip on the inside of the turn is barely moving and the one on the outside is going fast. They don't really bank, they just roll on their side. My turns on the 1010 are so slow I probably look like I was planning on downwinding and changed my mind.
Bill all due respect hope your wrong as Iím already $800 in the hole on the 1150 waiting for it arrive to compliment my 1020 for a bit more speed and higher end range,not sure what I was thinking really as you know Iím not the biggest fan of HA wings but all Iíve tried are the GF GL series and maybe with some stroke of luck I might like the Axisís HA version,now you got me thinking about the 1000 Lol

Iíve ridden the 1150. Do I need to hit you over the head.

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Re: Go Foil : Axis : Armstrong : Signature : Cloud IX: ??
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2020, 05:14:48 AM »
I came in for a breather and saw Admin switching out his 1000 for a 900. He said he had a great session on the 1000 but wanted to try the 900, which sounded nuts to me. He offered to let me try his 1000 which is amazingly generous since he knows how hard I am on gear. His 1000 has one scratch on it.

My 1000 no longer has a scratch on it. I am back to Scotchbrite pads :).  It shines, it shines.

My favorite moment from yesterday was when Bill wings into the cove at Swell City after his session.  He has been going there for 30 years and knows that it is super shallow and rocky.  He ends up with his foil on a submerged rock, still standing, and looks down at the rock like he is pissed at it for being there. 
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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2020, 07:00:15 AM »
Ok if NP comes back in thatís a serious update. Iíve never heard anything but good about those foils, and not just from DW, I mean all over. lol

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« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2020, 07:29:44 AM »
I think the 1150 is going to suck toads for winging. I could be wrong, but it seems like it will turn even worse than the 1010--wh i ich takes a fair amount of effort to turn. The longer a high aspect wing is, the weirder it will be in a turn. If the turn is tight enough the wingtip on the inside of the turn is barely moving and the one on the outside is going fast. They don't really bank, they just roll on their side. My turns on the 1010 are so slow I probably look like I was planning on downwinding and changed my mind.
Bill all due respect hope your wrong as Iím already $800 in the hole on the 1150 waiting for it arrive to compliment my 1020 for a bit more speed and higher end range,not sure what I was thinking really as you know Iím not the biggest fan of HA wings but all Iíve tried are the GF GL series and maybe with some stroke of luck I might like the Axisís HA version,now you got me thinking about the 1000 Lol

Iíve ridden the 1150. Do I need to hit you over the head.

LOl what Axis wing might you recommend Dwight to run along with the 1020?,as see Bill raving about the 1000 now,and heís similar size to me 225lb mostly ocean and some flat water for fairly advanced foiler,kinda like decent low end with manageable range probably does not exist,What is your fav Axis combo?
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Re: Go Foil : Axis : Armstrong : Signature : Cloud IX: ??
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2020, 12:30:50 PM »
Seems to me that even I haven't tried everything all the new foils are good.

I'm a big fan of Axis because it is all interchangeable, not heavy but strong and durable (even an alu set up is still pretty light, not the lightest but light and super stiff), good quality screws (very important), super tight, and most important they work very hard to keep up and stay in the game with new gear coming up all year round. And it is not to expensive.

For sup I like Axis mostly because it is stiff and the wings work really good (900 and 910).

For surf foil I have to say the Signature 165 is a killer foil, super light, super responsive, good for pumping and turning because all the speed you get.




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Re: Go Foil : Axis : Armstrong : Signature : Cloud IX: ??
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2020, 01:59:14 PM »
Dam...give me some of that Neil Pryde glide. Kane did good!

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Re: Go Foil : Axis : Armstrong : Signature : Cloud IX: ??
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2020, 07:48:33 PM »
Good lord. He didnít break a sweat. At one point he was surfing chop I think.

 


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