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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2020, 04:23:17 AM »
My guess clay,

When I have ridden wings too hard to turn. Too hard to turn means for me, a foil setup that is outside my “natural instinct” of what a foil should do, to work without thinking. Just roll, flow, and follow my input naturally.

Examples of this happening to me.

Kiting the Naish XL and the Axis 102. Some would say they work and turn for kiting, for me, they taco and I flop in the water because they don’t follow my input. They don’t turn on little kite boards. Not enough leverage.

SUPing, some would say the Axis 1150 turns. For me, I lean and it won’t follow my input. Flop in the water like a kook. Unridable to me. Hate it, not interested in adapting to it.

So the 2400 on the tall mast might have fallen outside this window of what I call your natural instincts. What you expect, and want to the wing to do when you roll in and out of turns. I won’t be buying a 2400, thanks for the warning  ;D  A Short mast reacts quicker. That probably brought he 2400 inside your window of natual instincts.

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2020, 04:08:34 PM »
It just goes to show how much personal preference is a factor in gear choice and how this can change over time. There is no substitute for trying as many different things as you can. For me the Axis 1150 has been a total game changer. And I love it with the 460 tail wing. And I prefer the standard fuse. Another game changer has been the 7m Echo. So much power. Dwight- What tubing are you using for your speed line on the Echo?

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2020, 05:46:51 PM »

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2020, 07:05:00 PM »
A-Wing looks nice!  Window materials made from 'military tent material' so maybe less concern about crinkles and cracking?  Large diameter towards wingtips for more rigidity.
 
I’m a 5’9” 65kg rider:

Boards:
   4'5.5" 33L Armstrong
   4’10” 37L FSM
   5'1" 74L FSM
   5’11” 100L FSM

Foils: Armstrong 800, 1050, 1550, 1850, 2400
Wings: BRM 2M-6M

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2020, 02:05:15 AM »
Interesting Armstrong is releasing later this week a sort of Mini boom that can fit all the other wings..
You can see it in action in the new wing video on Armstrong’s official instagram ;)

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2020, 10:38:28 AM »
the HS1250 with Ozone v2 with windows and stiff handles.


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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2020, 11:56:42 AM »
Interesting Armstrong is releasing later this week a sort of Mini boom that can fit all the other wings..
You can see it in action in the new wing video on Armstrong’s official instagram ;)

drumroll please........hot off the press.....The Strap-On!

All jokes aside, I plan on scooping one up to use with my Cloud wings if compatible.  It will allow a more expansive power stroke when pumping onto foil I would imagine, plus one handed cruising!
I’m a 5’9” 65kg rider:

Boards:
   4'5.5" 33L Armstrong
   4’10” 37L FSM
   5'1" 74L FSM
   5’11” 100L FSM

Foils: Armstrong 800, 1050, 1550, 1850, 2400
Wings: BRM 2M-6M

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2020, 07:12:40 AM »
I have been riding my 1850/232/+1 almost every day at Swell and continue to be very happy with this wing.  I have noticed that it is extremely sensitive to depth, much more so than other foils I have used.  If I catch a swell high, it takes off and glides beautifully but if I am a bit deep, it is much slower.  The width of the foil does require some compromise on how hard one can turn, especially if the wave face is steep.  Breaches at speed are pretty unforgiving.  Once the river swells get head high, the size of the foil becomes more limiting and I think the 1550 will work better.

A bonus to hanging out at Swell is the parade of expert down winders that go by.  There is so much to learn by watching the timing of how they carve, pump and use every bit of river energy to stay on foil.  The paddlers are the best at it but there are many good wingers around.   I think it was Thatspec that glided by around 1400 yesterday.

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2020, 03:53:31 PM »
The HS1850 is like 4 wings in one. The low speed to do anything. The high end to hit 20.5 mph so far. Shot at the end of the day with fading wind. Probably 10-14 mph. Had to search out a gust just to attempt the 360 for the camera. I have to wait for Jacky to get tired to get any video, and she never gets tired.

https://youtu.be/gGcNaBg_dpM
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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2020, 05:48:25 AM »
That was sweet.  claim that :)

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2020, 12:33:25 PM »
Nice!

The HS1850 is like 4 wings in one. The low speed to do anything. The high end to hit 20.5 mph so far.

Don't have a lot to compare it to but the 1850 makes everything really easy. Heard that it isn't a beginner wing but can't imagine why not. My progression from beginner was immediate and rapid. Don't think I'll ever out grow it either.

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2020, 01:15:41 PM »
Just received my 1850 kit. Stoked to try it soon!

Are any of you finding it likes to be situated further forward/back in the boxes than foils you've ridden previously? What would you all recommend as the next step down for winging and SUP foiling? Saw that a new HS 1250 is being released shortly. Would this be the next go-to size (would ideally just have 2 front wings but who know where the journey takes me)?
6'5" 205 pounds. Armstrong 1850 Foil. Sunova 6'4" Aviator, Starboard Hypernut 7'4", Ozone Wing 5m

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2020, 02:46:00 PM »
It works in the middle of my tracks, same as most foils. With the 300 tail. Don’t own a 232 tail.

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2020, 03:03:32 PM »
Heard that it isn't a beginner wing but can't imagine why not. My progression from beginner was immediate and rapid. Don't think I'll ever out grow it either.

I agree.

We (the industry) tend to recommend thick auto lifting wings for beginners because they don’t know how to pump.

But these HS foils, while thinner than the CF models, are still very easy to ride. Nothing like some competing high performance foils.

For example, the Lift HA foils. Great pump, glide and carving, but kept biffing doing things I’m good at. Jacky went down hill quick skill wise. Had to kick those to the curb. No reason performance should make life harder. Especially when I’ve been foiling this long, in all forms of the sport, surf, wind, kite, wing.

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2020, 07:34:55 PM »
The 1850 is an outstanding  all around foil for winging but I would not recommend it for someone who has never foiled before.  The 2400 is still the best Armstrong offering for them. 

As far as the next wing, for me the 1850 starts feeling slow when nonbreaking wind swell is about head high.  Maybe smaller for breaking waves.  I’m thinking either the 1550 or 1250, or maybe chop a 232 first.

 


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