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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2020, 02:13:37 PM »
A couple more sessions on the 1850 and WOW.  Today was not that big of a day by gorge standards but I was getting some really nice DW rides.  A bit bigger swell and some more skill (pumping efficiency and  swell reading) and I really think I could get some proper DW rides.   For those using the Armstrong 2400, if you have some basic board pumping skills, I donít think you give up much, if any low end with the 1850.

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2020, 02:59:14 PM »
I look at the specs on the 1850 and it really is pretty similar to my Gong XL pro. (I wish the other manufacturers would publish wing volumes like Axis and Gong). And I see a similar effect comparing the XL pro to my larger Moses 1100. I donít give up that much low end but gain more carvability. Of course Gong fit and finish wonít come close to Armstrong but for the price difference youíd expect that.  The XL pro was ahead of its time in wing years......Been riding it since last November.

FWIW my goal is to have one front wing with a really wide speed range and great carvability. A nice high top speed for going into transitions, and a low stall speed for exiting transitions on the foil. I donít need or want two different front wings for different wind ranges. Iíll use my 6m Echo for light winds and 3.3m for cranking winds all with that one wing size. Thatís just my current opinion. Maybe itíll change next week :P

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2020, 07:32:18 PM »
First wing session in the waves with the 1850 today. Side offshore 10-20mph. 6m BRM. Waves waist-stomach high on sets.  Clean long walls from Isaias.

Ran the +1 shim and the wing went amazing. Able to cruise out upwind against the longshore current and pick off swells from way out the back. This is where the 1850 smokes the 2400, as that wing you almost have to jibe one wave ahead of the one you want to track down, letting it catch you as it stands up more one the inside. The 1850 could keep me on the unbreaking wave long before hitting the sandbar. The 1550 wouldnít have been as much fun in the lully conditions either.

The 6m BRM went insane too. Despite the ginormous leading edge diameter, the thing cuts through wind like a katana. Much more resistance felt from my own body than the wing when cutting back into the wind.

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   5'1" 74L FSM
   5í11Ē 100L FSM

Foils: Armstrong 800, 1050, 1550, 1850, 2400
Wings: BRM 2M-6M

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2020, 05:14:28 AM »
First wing session in the waves with the 1850 today. Side offshore 10-20mph. 6m BRM. Waves waist-stomach high on sets.  Clean long walls from Isaias.

Ran the +1 shim and the wing went amazing. Able to cruise out upwind against the longshore current and pick off swells from way out the back. This is where the 1850 smokes the 2400, as that wing you almost have to jibe one wave ahead of the one you want to track down, letting it catch you as it stands up more one the inside. The 1850 could keep me on the unbreaking wave long before hitting the sandbar. The 1550 wouldnít have been as much fun in the lully conditions either.

The 6m BRM went insane too. Despite the ginormous leading edge diameter, the thing cuts through wind like a katana. Much more resistance felt from my own body than the wing when cutting back into the wind.

Sounds amazing. I am loving mine. Completed my first on foil tack yesterday with it.  The glide makes everything easier.  Could be a one foil quiver for most conditions for me.  You will probably never use a bigger foil for winging.  Under what conditions would you use a smaller foil for winging and what foil would that be?

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2020, 06:42:18 AM »
The last time I used my 1050 Winging, the winds were perfect 5M conditions around 18mph steady. That was almost two months ago. Summer winds are brutal here. 

I think that the 1050 and 1850 would be a killer two wing wingding quiver.  You can run the 1050 by sizing your wing up one. So 4M conditions, run the 5m etc. depending on what style of riding you are after.
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   5'1" 74L FSM
   5í11Ē 100L FSM

Foils: Armstrong 800, 1050, 1550, 1850, 2400
Wings: BRM 2M-6M

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2020, 05:23:24 PM »

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2020, 05:54:30 PM »
Itís the magical foil.  Today I was able to pump up to the swell in front of me several times on my 5-10 board. Canít wait to pair it with an FSM.

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2020, 05:26:20 PM »
Itís the magical foil.

Yeah, I think I found my unicorn.

Jackyís unicorn is the 1550


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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2020, 06:24:45 AM »
DW, I'd be interested to hear your feedback on mast stiffness on the Army. 

Send some wind up the coast so I can get back on the 1850 btw!
Iím a 5í9Ē 65kg rider:

Boards:
   4'5.5" 33L Armstrong
   4í10Ē 37L FSM
   5'1" 74L FSM
   5í11Ē 100L FSM

Foils: Armstrong 800, 1050, 1550, 1850, 2400
Wings: BRM 2M-6M

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2020, 10:34:07 AM »
DW, I'd be interested to hear your feedback on mast stiffness on the Army. 

Plus 1, especially curious if you have ridden the 85 mast your feedback compared to Axis?
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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2020, 11:36:50 AM »
DW, I'd be interested to hear your feedback on mast stiffness on the Army. 

Send some wind up the coast so I can get back on the 1850 btw!

Winging, Iíve never felt any mast flexing under me, from any brand.

I did SUP this morning with the Armstrong 72 mast. It felt fine. I was stable. Felt no wobble or deck vibrations transmitting back to me, like I did once with a GoFoil mast under my board. Iím happy with it.

I donít have my 85cm mast for winging yet. Itís on order.

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2020, 03:40:53 PM »
I started on the 85 with 2400 wing, couldn't get it to feel right, taco regularly.   Got the 72 and that felt normal and how I would expect it to feel.  Thought maybe 85 was to tall for me, after riding 90 and 105 axis I know I can handle a tall mast just fine.  Maybe the 2400 is so big it puts a ton of flex or maybe the mast I had was unusually flexy??  I never managed to figure out what the deal was...
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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2020, 06:30:53 PM »
I started on the 85 with 2400 wing, couldn't get it to feel right, taco regularly.   Got the 72 and that felt normal and how I would expect it to feel.  Thought maybe 85 was to tall for me, after riding 90 and 105 axis I know I can handle a tall mast just fine.  Maybe the 2400 is so big it puts a ton of flex or maybe the mast I had was unusually flexy??  I never managed to figure out what the deal was...

Thatís odd, I donít think Iíve ever tacoíd the 2400. Was your stance offset or on the stringer?  Iíve found that an offset stance with the wider wings can help with the added leverage required.

Was this winging or SUPing? Suping would be a different story as Iíve not got that much experience in that regard. 
Iím a 5í9Ē 65kg rider:

Boards:
   4'5.5" 33L Armstrong
   4í10Ē 37L FSM
   5'1" 74L FSM
   5í11Ē 100L FSM

Foils: Armstrong 800, 1050, 1550, 1850, 2400
Wings: BRM 2M-6M

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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2020, 07:51:18 PM »
I started on the 85 with 2400 wing, couldn't get it to feel right, taco regularly.   Got the 72 and that felt normal and how I would expect it to feel.  Thought maybe 85 was to tall for me, after riding 90 and 105 axis I know I can handle a tall mast just fine.  Maybe the 2400 is so big it puts a ton of flex or maybe the mast I had was unusually flexy??  I never managed to figure out what the deal was...

Thatís odd, I donít think Iíve ever tacoíd the 2400. Was your stance offset or on the stringer?  Iíve found that an offset stance with the wider wings can help with the added leverage required.

Was this winging or SUPing? Suping would be a different story as Iíve not got that much experience in that regard.

Tried both wing and SUP.  I was so puzzled I tried it at a spot I know very well on  a small day, kicked out of a wave tried to do a couple pumps back out and immediately rolled.  Gave up on it after that.  Tried the 72 and was able to surf and turn just fine.  I have yet to need a staggered stance to turn a foil, so always turning in my usual foil surf stance.
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Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2020, 04:22:42 AM »
That is weird everyone who has tried the 85 reckons I should get it for wingding. Hmmm :-\

 


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