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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2020, 10:10:35 AM »
Theyre fast for a big wing, but VERY pitchy with a short fuse and sich a large straight wing

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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2020, 06:01:20 AM »
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCSVIeKjQ9c/?igshid=1v6ybg31xw3ft

More vids to come. Makes the unrideable become rideable.

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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2020, 04:28:04 PM »
Whoa, nice pumping skills & video! What size board were you on?

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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2020, 06:41:35 PM »
5'8" 110 liter DWF board. I'm about 170 lbs. Trick is to not paddle a lot and get a long smooth stroke so the foil can do its thing. Instant lift and glide when it happens.

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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2020, 11:44:16 PM »
5'8" 110 liter DWF board. I'm about 170 lbs. Trick is to not paddle a lot and get a long smooth stroke so the foil can do its thing. Instant lift and glide when it happens.
Is the S1150 easier to get flying than the S1020?
I have been trying to do a flat water start with the S1020 without success , I am 190 lbs.
All the guys that can do a flat water start with the S1020  are lighter so I figure I need something bigger/better to pull it off!

All the small wings that Axis came out with the last year seem to be suitable for proners and sub 170 lbs suppers only , especially if you don't have decent waves!

I am already considering getting a big wing from another brand now that I heard that it will take till the end off August to get a 1150..

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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2020, 06:03:01 AM »
5'8" 110 liter DWF board. I'm about 170 lbs. Trick is to not paddle a lot and get a long smooth stroke so the foil can do its thing. Instant lift and glide when it happens.
Is the S1150 easier to get flying than the S1020?
I have been trying to do a flat water start with the S1020 without success , I am 190 lbs.
All the guys that can do a flat water start with the S1020  are lighter so I figure I need something bigger/better to pull it off!

All the small wings that Axis came out with the last year seem to be suitable for proners and sub 170 lbs suppers only , especially if you don't have decent waves!

I am already considering getting a big wing from another brand now that I heard that it will take till the end off August to get a 1150..

The 1150 glides further per pump and has a super slow stall rate probly better than the 1020 but with high aspect foils, you get a lot of flat area in the front of the wing that makes paddling onto foil in flat water difficult. The 1010 would actually be easier to paddle in flat water than the 1150 due to this. If I'm in a wave that is clean with a gradual steepness then I go 1010 or 910 since I can paddle those faster. If there's a good amount of steepness like a shore break or white wash then 1150 for sure since I can use the drop or push from the wash to get my speed up.
So just going to a bigger wing isn't going to pop you up onto foil, other things to take into account. Size of paddle board you're using, pump rhythm to paddle rhythm, endurance.
The first time I got on one of DWF's boards, I tried his 5'11" and with a Neil Pryde Large wing, I could feel the set up wanting to pop up onto foil in the flat water so I think board shape and size is almost more important than the foil itself when doing flat water starts.
I forgot to mention, the 1010 replaced my 1020 in my quiver. The stuff that I had to work and pump hard for with the 1020/1010, became easy with the 1150.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2020, 06:28:49 AM by flkiter »

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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2020, 07:51:04 PM »
I have flat water started the 1150, 1020, and even the 82! (Just barely, and only once. But im still claiming it)  my weight is about 78kg.
Basically the bigger and fatter the leading edge, the easier it will be to take off. There is less of a pressure peak on a rounded LE which means it can handle a higher angle of attack with less water flow before stalling. The s series axis foils use a 15% thick raf48 section which you will see has a very thick entry.

You have to know what youre doing to flat water a high aspect, theyre very pedantic when it comes to pump motion and frequency.

My advice would be to start off on the 1020, standard fuse (long fuse= more positive pitch stability= more up) 440 tail and a 750 or 500 mast, in 20 odd knots of wind with short steep chop. Not on shore ocean swells coming across from peru. Once you figure out the motions you can then try in less and less wind until eventually you will do it in flat water

P.s also you have to paddle and pump like you wouldnt believe, you have to be in very good shape and have excellent paddle technique

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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2020, 07:57:38 PM »
And dont give up! I tried for a solid year or 2 before i could nail it every time

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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2020, 10:48:32 PM »
I pumped up on my 1020/440 short fuse with a 6M F-one wing in what was probably 9mph wind today. There were three guys out and they couldn't get up. I'm 73, 225#, and weak as a kitten. It was pretty much a flatwater start, or at least the geezer version. I probably looked like a turkey trying to fly, but I got up and stayed up.

Of course tonight I feel like I gave birth or something equally stressful, so there's that.
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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2020, 07:14:02 AM »
Is Axis 1150 a good foil for wing foiling? I'd like something a bit faster but still beginner-intermediate friendly to my very beginner-friendly 1020-500 (standard fuse). I find that I am often not quite as fast as the swell in SF Bay and not infrequently I have to grab the back handle to add power to stay 'in the pocket' on the swell. I'm new to wing foiling (a couple months in).
« Last Edit: July 10, 2020, 08:02:42 AM by liv2surf »
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Axis 1020; 65cm Project Cedrus carbon mast
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Me: 185 lbs, 64 yo Half Moon Bay, CA

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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2020, 08:34:23 AM »
Is Axis 1150 a good foil for wing foiling? I'd like something a bit faster but still beginner-intermediate friendly to my very beginner-friendly 1020-500 (standard fuse). I find that I am often not quite as fast as the swell in SF Bay and not infrequently I have to grab the back handle to add power to stay 'in the pocket' on the swell. I'm new to wing foiling (a couple months in).

You'll really enjoy the 1150 for winging. Faster than the 1020 and really easy glide with minimal pump input. The 920 is also a nice wing for beginners, a bit faster than the 1020 but still very forgiving. If you're going to want to go faster in steeper waves, the 1000 is awesome also. Once you learn the pump technique with the foil and wing then you can ride most wings in the same conditions. I was using an 1150 on a 5'1" board and switching with a buddy on his 1000 with a 6' board yesterday and I had no issues foiling up and staying up wind.

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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2020, 10:03:28 AM »
Is Axis 1150 a good foil for wing foiling? I'd like something a bit faster but still beginner-intermediate friendly to my very beginner-friendly 1020-500 (standard fuse). I find that I am often not quite as fast as the swell in SF Bay and not infrequently I have to grab the back handle to add power to stay 'in the pocket' on the swell. I'm new to wing foiling (a couple months in).

You'll really enjoy the 1150 for winging. Faster than the 1020 and really easy glide with minimal pump input. The 920 is also a nice wing for beginners, a bit faster than the 1020 but still very forgiving. If you're going to want to go faster in steeper waves, the 1000 is awesome also. Once you learn the pump technique with the foil and wing then you can ride most wings in the same conditions. I was using an 1150 on a 5'1" board and switching with a buddy on his 1000 with a 6' board yesterday and I had no issues foiling up and staying up wind.
Great input flkiter. Do you wish you had your friend's 1000 instead of 1150 or are you stoked on the 1150? Does the huge span of the 1150 get in the way? (I guess easier to kick the wings and those wings are going to be really impacting the bottom if the setup rolls in the shore break).
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Axis 1020; 65cm Project Cedrus carbon mast
6'6" CRUZ 'CIM' Foil SUP (130L)
Chinook Thrust 92 Paddle -- fixed 78" length
Me: 185 lbs, 64 yo Half Moon Bay, CA

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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2020, 07:18:04 PM »
1020/500 standard fuse is a really tough combo to pump and takes a lot of front foot pressure. For the price of a thin washer you can improve the speed quite a bit--shim the front of the 500 to decrease the angle. Or get a 390. I measured my 500 and got +5 degrees. I cut that back to a little less than +2 degrees with two thin washers and it got a bit unstable. I could probably get used to it once I found the right foot position, but I went to one slightly thicker washer to get +3 degrees and that felt great.

Apparently the 390 is zero degrees as is. It doesn't look pitchy with Admin riding it, so there might be other things going on, but he loves it.
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Re: Axis 1150
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2020, 09:37:42 PM »
Is Axis 1150 a good foil for wing foiling? I'd like something a bit faster but still beginner-intermediate friendly to my very beginner-friendly 1020-500 (standard fuse). I find that I am often not quite as fast as the swell in SF Bay and not infrequently I have to grab the back handle to add power to stay 'in the pocket' on the swell. I'm new to wing foiling (a couple months in).

You'll really enjoy the 1150 for winging. Faster than the 1020 and really easy glide with minimal pump input. The 920 is also a nice wing for beginners, a bit faster than the 1020 but still very forgiving. If you're going to want to go faster in steeper waves, the 1000 is awesome also. Once you learn the pump technique with the foil and wing then you can ride most wings in the same conditions. I was using an 1150 on a 5'1" board and switching with a buddy on his 1000 with a 6' board yesterday and I had no issues foiling up and staying up wind.
Great input flkiter. Do you wish you had your friend's 1000 instead of 1150 or are you stoked on the 1150? Does the huge span of the 1150 get in the way? (I guess easier to kick the wings and those wings are going to be really impacting the bottom if the setup rolls in the shore break).

I'm stoked on the 1150 and if I could just have one wing it would be the 1150 for now being summer.It can turn with part of the wing coming out of the water so no issues with tight turns for me. The 1000 handles better in high wind conditions for me.

 


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