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« Reply #105 on: June 11, 2021, 01:19:19 PM »
Seems like a nice laid back Waikiki vibe.  You could have a blast on a traditional noserider or more progressive shape for sure.

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« Reply #106 on: June 11, 2021, 03:48:38 PM »
@ LBsup

That video was taken on April 6th, 2021. This has been a "cold" Spring for us. The night time temperature was in the high 40's with daytime temperatures in the low to mid 60's in the first week of April in 2021. At that time, the water temperature was warmer than the air temperature.

The surfers were wearing wetsuits because the wind was really blowing that day and surfing without a wetsuit, the windy cold air combined with a low morning temperature of around 60 degrees F makes the body feel cold when the bare skin is wet.

Today is June 11th and the water temperature at Surfside is 86 degrees F. On a side note, June 1st is the start of our hurricane season for Texas. Hurricanes start getting bigger category wise when the water temperature is 80 degrees F and above.

In July and August, the water temperature at Surfside will be between 89-92 degrees F.
Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
Sup Sports Hammer: 8'11" x 31" x 4" @ 140 Liters
SUP Sports One World: 11'1" x 30" x 4.5" @ 173 Liters
CJ Nelson Parallax: 9'3" x 23 1/2" x 3 3/16" @ 78.8 Liters (prone surfing longboard)

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« Reply #107 on: June 11, 2021, 03:55:28 PM »
@ Bean

I was never into nose riding. I learned to surf on a 9'6" longboard which was a nose rider at that time because of it's square tail with a single glassed in hatchet type fin which would be akin to a pivot fin.

But I never did any nose riding with it. I was just into the "glide" from the long rides which I enjoyed.
Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
Sup Sports Hammer: 8'11" x 31" x 4" @ 140 Liters
SUP Sports One World: 11'1" x 30" x 4.5" @ 173 Liters
CJ Nelson Parallax: 9'3" x 23 1/2" x 3 3/16" @ 78.8 Liters (prone surfing longboard)

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« Reply #108 on: June 11, 2021, 06:09:07 PM »
About 6:30 pm my time, I checked my email account because Walgreens was going to send me an email when my prescription refill was filled and ready for me to come and pick it up. I did get the email from Walgreens, but I had another email from REAL Watersports.

The email from REAL said my 9'3" Parallax had arrived at their shop this Friday. I knew REAL closes their shop at 8:00 pm EST which is my 7:00 pm CST. I quickly called REAL and spoke with Randall who said my board was in pristine shape, but there was a "catch".

Since REAL is located on an island off the North Carolina coast, they only ship their boards once a week and that is every........(ugh) Thursday.

I missed the shipping day by one day. So my Parallax will be shipped to me this upcoming Thursday, June 17th. Once the board is shipped, I will get a tracking number. I'm hoping to get my hands physically on it by June 23rd.
Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
Sup Sports Hammer: 8'11" x 31" x 4" @ 140 Liters
SUP Sports One World: 11'1" x 30" x 4.5" @ 173 Liters
CJ Nelson Parallax: 9'3" x 23 1/2" x 3 3/16" @ 78.8 Liters (prone surfing longboard)

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« Reply #109 on: June 12, 2021, 11:46:33 AM »

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« Reply #110 on: June 18, 2021, 12:19:46 PM »
A little update.

Got an email from REAL on June 11th telling me my Parallax arrived at REAL Watersports last Friday, June 11th in pristine condition. The only glich, REAL ships on Thursdays which for that week was Thursday, June 10th. I missed the shipping date of that week by one day. Also in the email, REAL told me they would ship my board to me on Thursday, June 17th.

But "Lady Luck" decided to intervene on my behalf.

I received another email from REAL on Tuesday, June15th informing me of my tracking number for the board. Since the board was going to be shipped on Thursday, June 17th, I didn't click on the tracking number since the board wasn't going to be shipped until Thursday.

My wife left me to go see her immediate family (sister, nieces, grand niece) near Austin, Tx early Thursday morning, June 17th and when she left, I decided to get on my computer and click on the tracking number. When I was about to click on the tracking number, a FED EX truck pulled into my driveway.

I figured it was a package for my wife. When I went outside to greet the driver, he was pulling out a l-o-n-g rectangular shipping carton. The carton was for...........ME! It was my Parallax.

I looked over the shipping carton and it was in pristine condition. Odd thing about the shipping carton, it had a label on it which said, "IAH" which stands for "Intercontinental Airport Houston" so my board came by air cargo on one of those FED EX cargo jets. The label said it was scheduled for delivery on June 18th. On the same label was also printed "Express Saver".

Inside the shipping carton was my Parallax also in pristine condition. I was ecstatic. So I figured my board was shipped on Tuesday, June 15th and this is why I got it so fast.

I called REAL via phone and thanked Ramsey, Randall and Zack who I dealt with at REAL to thank all of them. I think getting a personal phone call to thank each one of them is better than emailing each of them to show my appreciation. Just the way I am.

Now for the "fly in the ointment". I don't own a smartphone. Just an old fashioned eleven year old clam shell flip style cell phone. I also don't own a tablet. My wife on the other hand, owns both. Alas, I can't take any pictures until she arrives home because she took her smartphone and iPad with her. She will return on Monday, June 21st near dark.

Now my next door neighbor, who I help out down at his computer repair shop, owns a smartphone and a tablet. I thought about bugging him to take a few pictures for me with his smartphone and/or tablet and send the pictures to me via email, but I thought better of it.

So I hope to take some pictures of my Parallax next Tuesday, June 22nd and eventually post them to this topic thread.







Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
Sup Sports Hammer: 8'11" x 31" x 4" @ 140 Liters
SUP Sports One World: 11'1" x 30" x 4.5" @ 173 Liters
CJ Nelson Parallax: 9'3" x 23 1/2" x 3 3/16" @ 78.8 Liters (prone surfing longboard)

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« Reply #111 on: June 18, 2021, 02:04:07 PM »

Oh those waves look great for foiling.

Dude, I never thought I'd be investigating flying boards to Texas but I'm figuring out bags and such for my next family visit and investigating Airbnb on the Gulf Coast. Video like this has greatly complicated my trips home.

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« Reply #112 on: June 21, 2021, 10:41:24 AM »
Another update.

My wife returned home from her trip with her iPad. Now for some pictures. Since this site does not allow Previews for pictures, I'm going to put two pictures in this post, make another post and add the third picture.

The first photo is of my 9'3" Parallax surfing longboard with the Flying Diamonds "Involvement 9.0" fin.The second photo is a more close up view of the Involvement fin. Just hope this works.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2021, 10:54:35 AM by Night Wing »
Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
Sup Sports Hammer: 8'11" x 31" x 4" @ 140 Liters
SUP Sports One World: 11'1" x 30" x 4.5" @ 173 Liters
CJ Nelson Parallax: 9'3" x 23 1/2" x 3 3/16" @ 78.8 Liters (prone surfing longboard)

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« Reply #113 on: June 21, 2021, 10:50:57 AM »
Now for the last picture. It will be showing the placement for the Involvement 9.0 fin. Fin placement is crucial for a single fin longboard. Placing the fin too far back  of the fin box and the board will track straight, but it will be harder to turn the board. In other words, too "tracky".

Placing the fin all the way to to the top/front of the fin box will make the board too loose. In other words, on a turn, depending on how tight the turn is, the back end of the board will "skid out".

The proper placement for the fin is to have one third of the fin above the the rail when the fin is placed, not attached to the board, laying down on the opening of the fin box. On this photo, this is 1 1/2" (1.5") inches from the front of the fin box (going towards the nose). BTW, the hole at the back of the fin box is the "leash hole" to attach a leash from the board to the back leg of the rider. Just hope this picture shows as well.
Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
Sup Sports Hammer: 8'11" x 31" x 4" @ 140 Liters
SUP Sports One World: 11'1" x 30" x 4.5" @ 173 Liters
CJ Nelson Parallax: 9'3" x 23 1/2" x 3 3/16" @ 78.8 Liters (prone surfing longboard)

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« Reply #114 on: June 27, 2021, 02:14:02 PM »
Congrats NW. Great color. Looking forward to your ride report.

Along this line I came across an Infinity Cluster 9-6 basically new, and was able to buy for $500 last week. Took it out this morning to 4 at 11s and offshore wind. Had it set up with 5 outside fins and a 6 center. I read that they sell it with a 4 center fin.

Love at first drop with this board. Im a big guy and I could pump off the tail easily rolling rail to rail. 3rd wave I walked up to the nose on the inside section, so easy and I could feel the fins from the nose.  Last wave of the day I caught a set wave (regular going right) big drop, did a cut back, some power wiggles, got to the nose and pumped through the inside section from the front. Then wave tripped over a sand spit and gave me one last shoulder right to the beach. Left me giggling . Board really carried momentum well.

I was so stoked I drove straight to the surf shop and bought a bag for it. Taking it to Maui tomorrow  for 10 days of south swell on the west side.

Make paddleboarding great again!

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« Reply #115 on: June 29, 2021, 09:12:40 AM »
I thought I would give a little update.

I have outfitted my 9'3" Parallax with a Flying Diamonds 9.0 fin. But I decided to purchase another FD fin in a 9.5 size in Volan Green color. Hawaiian South Shore did not have the 9.5 size in stock. Bummer!

Then I visited FireWire and they did have two FD's Involvement 9.5 fins in stock in Volan Green color so I bought one. As I type this post, the 9.5 fin is in transit via USPS and the tracking number I have says the fin will be delivered to me this upcoming Thursday, July 1st.

If there is one thing that bugs me about prone surfing, it is the use of wax. Wax gives a good grip with bare feet because it is kind of sticky and does not chafe skin.

But in the hot Texas climate I live in where the summer months temperatures of July and August are between 95-106 degrees F, wax melts and since it is sticky, it gets all over anything (board bags, board socks, etc) the wax comes into contact with. It really makes a mess to remove.

So I want to go "waxless'. There are waxless materials available for prone surfboards which give good enough grip, but these materials chafe bare skin with constant rubbing against.

The companies that have these materials are Versa Traction, XM Surf More Clear Grip, GryptaLite and RS Pro. But all of these materials; contrary to website claims which says they do not chafe skin, from the actual users of these materials, these materials do chafe skin.

But RS Pro also makes another material which supposedly does not chafe skin and which is made from "cork". And from reading the reviews of this cork material, it looks like it does not chafe bare skin. This material is 1 (one) millimeter in thickness too.

RS Pro is headquartered in Barcelona, Spain. Another bummer! So I went looking on the internet to see if there was a RS Pro USA distributor/company and they do. The company is North Shore Inc and it is located in Hood River, Oregon. (PonoBill territory). I've been looking at two pieces of this cork material (Front Deck Grip 2 & Hexa Tail) and they are at the links below.

https://www.northshoreinc.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=558&idcategory=226

https://www.northshoreinc.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=537&idcategory=226

BTW, on these two links, look at the Details and Specs for each of these items.

I will call North Shore and see if I can get a "live person" at the company to speak with and ask them (and I hope I get an honest answer) if the cork material will or will not chafe bare skin from rubbing against it.

Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
Sup Sports Hammer: 8'11" x 31" x 4" @ 140 Liters
SUP Sports One World: 11'1" x 30" x 4.5" @ 173 Liters
CJ Nelson Parallax: 9'3" x 23 1/2" x 3 3/16" @ 78.8 Liters (prone surfing longboard)

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« Reply #116 on: July 10, 2021, 08:17:00 AM »
I have my Flying Diamonds "Involvement" 9.5 installed on my 9'3" Parallax longboard. Now for the wax situation.

I ordered from North Shore (in Hood River, Oregon) two sets of their cork Front Deck Grip 2 so that gives me 8 separate pieces. But instead of the cork Hexa Tail, I went with the cork Front Deck Grip Hexa which gives me 12 full hexagons and 3 half hexagons.

The reason I went with the Front Deck Grip Hexa is because my leash hole on the Parallax is 8" from the tail end of the board. Since the boar is 111" in length, the half way point of the board, which is where the sweet spot is on this board, is at 55 1/2". This length is where the back of both of my hands would rest (where my hand connects to my wrist) on the board for me to do my popups to put me into a surfing stance.

If I would have went with the Hexa Tail, the kickpad would have put me 8" too far forward on the board when I'm laying prone paddling the longboard causing the nose of the board to sink and would also give me trouble when doing a popup.

To make my point; below is a short video, best watched in HD and in full screen, where (about half way through the video) there is a guy on a longboard with a tail kickpad and the tail kickpad is not the way to go. I think he must have come from surfing shortboards since he is pumping the board while trying to shred a wave.

The video is below and it is at my favorite Surfside, TX place. BTW, the best time to surf Surfside is when the wind is coming from the south or southwest and the waves are coming from the southeast. The actual surfing is shot from a drone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOAqTxzAM2Y

When I'm going to Surfside, I always check the conditions at the site below.

https://www.windfinder.com/weatherforecast/surfside_beach_freeport

Below is a picture of the items North Shore sent me which I got Friday afternoon. I've just got to install them on the board.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2021, 08:29:43 AM by Night Wing »
Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
Sup Sports Hammer: 8'11" x 31" x 4" @ 140 Liters
SUP Sports One World: 11'1" x 30" x 4.5" @ 173 Liters
CJ Nelson Parallax: 9'3" x 23 1/2" x 3 3/16" @ 78.8 Liters (prone surfing longboard)

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« Reply #117 on: July 23, 2021, 11:42:21 AM »
Now that I have all the extra pieces I needed to finish my cork grip waxless job for my 9'3" Parallax surfboard, it is time for pictures.

Then I'll just take my Parallax down to Surfside, Texas for a little in depth surfing and see how the grip is on my bare feet and hope it works.

And if it does work without rubbing the undersides of my bare feet raw, a surfing report will be in order for the Parallax to see how well the board (and me) surfs together.

Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
Sup Sports Hammer: 8'11" x 31" x 4" @ 140 Liters
SUP Sports One World: 11'1" x 30" x 4.5" @ 173 Liters
CJ Nelson Parallax: 9'3" x 23 1/2" x 3 3/16" @ 78.8 Liters (prone surfing longboard)

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« Reply #118 on: July 24, 2021, 03:36:55 AM »
I like the Cork!.
If you want to put some grip on that nose or fill gaps in the rails Versatraction is a transparent ,thin grip that works good for that.
I find it too slippery for where you put your feet in turn mode but good enough for nose walking,stepping on a rail ,random miss steps (i do plenty of those :) ) etc...

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« Reply #119 on: July 24, 2021, 05:45:31 AM »
@ Dontsink

I'm not a nose rider and the Parallax is not specifically designed to be a nose rider. You can nose ride the Parallax, but the waves have plenty of juice in them to nose ride it. I'm more of a glider where I get out just in front of the wave, surf the board towards the beach and ride it until the wave loses it momentum and falls apart.

The Parallax is a niche board which is inbetween a high performance longboard and a nose rider board so it can be trimmed (turned) from standing in the middle of the board. This fits with my style of surfing a prone surfboard.

One thing about the Parallax, if the waves starts to lose it's form and to the right or left of you if a wave starts to form (when I ride disorganized waves with my sup), the Parallax is a very fast board and it is designed with plenty of speed to catch any wave/section that forms to the right or left of you if the wave you're presently riding peters out.

As for VersaTraction, it is slippery and that is what many surfers who have tried it have said. This is why I didn't go with VersaTraction. I looked at the clear RSPro hexagonal pieces which are not made out of cork, but there are drawbacks to that as well. The main drawback, it can rub the bottom of your feet raw if you slide you feet on it while surfing a wave.

The other drawback was when paddling prone to head on out to where the waves are breaking, if you are surfing bare chested, it will rub your nipples raw. This is why I went with the cork material since it doesn't do that with the bottom of your feet and if you're surfing bare chested. But I always surf with a long sleeve t-shirt which cancels out the raw nipples problem.

I always surf with a long sleeve t-shirt for another reason and that is so I don't have to wear lots of sunscreen to avoid skin cancer. The hat I wear has a long bill so it shields my face and nose from the sun. The hat also has flaps on the sides and back of it to protect the sides of my neck and the back of my neck from the sun also.

Now I am also going to make another post because I measured the 9" Involvement fin placement wrong which was pointed out to me by the guy who owns a surf shop, who also designs and shapes his surfboards and who also has a CNC machine in his shop, in Surfside, Texas. I also bought another Flying Diamonds fin, a 9.5 (9.5") Involvement fin (on his advice) which I now have and it is installed on my Parallax.
Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
Sup Sports Hammer: 8'11" x 31" x 4" @ 140 Liters
SUP Sports One World: 11'1" x 30" x 4.5" @ 173 Liters
CJ Nelson Parallax: 9'3" x 23 1/2" x 3 3/16" @ 78.8 Liters (prone surfing longboard)

 


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