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Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2020, 09:03:35 AM »
The extra high volume longboards (Walden Mega, Infinity Secret Weapon) are game-changers for some people.  A lot of my friends have gone that route and it's completely changed things for them.  They aren't high performance, but man, they cruise like no other.  And I'd guess they increased my friends' wave counts by 400%. 

Here are some shots of my buddy on his 9'0 Mega in Costa Rica a couple of years ago....





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Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2020, 04:05:21 PM »
SupAfrica- great post!

I have been proning more in small surf and sold my SUP longboards.  I think your buddy may be the same guy who had my old RNB- and if so probably the same size as me and i TOTALLY agree.

i rode a custom 8'0 that was near 90 L in volume in CR.  It was essentially a glassed soft stop shape- and i had to have the guy that demoed it wrestle it back from me.

I had been thinking about that board since the trip for a knee/thigh high board for summer (Which is basically every day)   and Just ordered the Modern Double Wide as part of a major re-vamp of my quiver thining out boards I dont use (Both sup and prone) including a post on a L41 I just picked up.


Im not a hige fan of pop outs but i wasnt going to get a summer toy shaped custom especially when I know it will see alot of beach time.   It comes tomorrow. we will see how it goes.

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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2020, 04:14:07 PM »
Whoops.  Sorry- Thought Africa's was the original post- Didnt mean to thread steal Nightwing.

But sounds like you are looking for the same thing.  The Double Wide has a 7.4 option that may suit your weight.

I found in the real small stuff- especially windswell like you wil have in TX- the extra foot or so to go to 9 or 10 feet is limiting in positioning for waves.  Thats why I went 8'4 even though I have a 9'4 longbord.  I just want able to aim it fast enought in short period swell.

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« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2020, 05:37:13 PM »
Whoops.  Sorry- Thought Africa's was the original post- Didnt mean to thread steal Nightwing.

But sounds like you are looking for the same thing.  The Double Wide has a 7.4 option that may suit your weight.

I found in the real small stuff- especially windswell like you wil have in TX- the extra foot or so to go to 9 or 10 feet is limiting in positioning for waves.  Thats why I went 8'4 even though I have a 9'4 longbord.  I just want able to aim it fast enought in short period swell.

You don't have anything to feel sorry about to me. All is good. Any info on surfboards is much appreciated in my view. And the info provided by you is interesting since I wasn't really going to seriously look at surfboards under 9' in length.....which means I might have to look at  8'6" surfboards as well since the upper Texas coast has a lot of wind swell waves.

So thanks for adding your post to this topic thread.
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Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2020, 06:45:25 PM »
@ burchas

I already knew it would be a tough subject. But I'm going on what the normal waves I find down at Surfside along with going back into my memory when I was 15 years old when I learned to surf a surfboard and my favorite board back then was one in 9' of length. But I can't remember it's width of thickness.

As for me, I'm not a shredder or do fancy moves. I just like the glide. This type of surfing most people would call "boring", but I like it. I like to catch as many waves as I can.
Well it's assumed you are not planning on shredding by virtue of the board dimensions you are describing.  I think a noserider might be worth considering even if you don't plan on doing any noseriding.  Another brand you should consider is Harbor Surfboards out of Seal Beach:https://www.harboursurfboards.com/classics-1

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« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2020, 09:04:34 PM »
Well it's assumed you are not planning on shredding by virtue of the board dimensions you are describing.  I think a noserider might be worth considering even if you don't plan on doing any noseriding.  Another brand you should consider is Harbor Surfboards out of Seal Beach:https://www.harboursurfboards.com/classics-1

You're correct. At 70 years of age and with a cranky lower back, I won't be doing any shredding. Just gliding towards the beach enjoying the ride is my preferred way to surf whether it be a with surfboard or a sup.

And thanks for the link to Harbor Surfboards.
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Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2020, 06:39:57 AM »
@ surf4food

I decided to include a nose rider even though I don't think I would be doing any nose riding. With that said, I'm looking at the Walden "Mega Magic" and the Donald Takayama "In The Pink" models.

So I went on YouTube looking for some videos with some "details" from the riders of these two boards and they are very far and few inbetween. However, I don't quit easily. I found one video with the rider's comments (click on show more) and it is an excellent review (in my opinion) of the Walden Magic model.

The specs on the Magic the rider is surfing is 10'0" x 23 1/2" x 3 3/16" at 96.2 liters. The rider is 180 lbs (85kg) and 6'1" (185 cm). Keep in mind, I'm only 140 lbs (63.50 kg) and 5'8" (176 cm) in height.

The video is below.

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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2020, 08:13:43 AM »
I live in League City and use to surf, but now spend most of my time SUPing, windsurfing, and mountain biking.  Anyway, an option is to find a local shaper; you can probably get a custom board made by someone who knows the area, for a reasonable price.  Plus you'll be supporting a local shop/shaper.  Rise surfboard in Texas City and Surf Specialties in Galveston shape boards, and have heard great things about them.  They both have websites, so can find them on Google.

One of my old prone board is a Fry, but think he retired a while back.

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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2020, 09:16:48 AM »
ha ha wingman.... hang on to your armchair, I have some vids to occupy your idle time  ;D ;D

Bert Burger, partner/shaper at Sunova, is has had a lifetime of surfing and competing on longboards (and shortboards)
The beauty of this is, he actually understands why boards and features work..... and he is very good at making it all make sense.
(much of the discussions he has are also very informational about general SUP design as well)

Bert has a wonderful ease about him.
I urge you to watch all these longboard shaping videos.... I learned lots of useful stuff on every video.

I'll start you off with some action.
This 1st video is shot 2 miles from the Sunova Factory, with Bert and some employees (yes, most Sunova factory employees surf!)
Bert is on the RED longboard... and still killing it as a big version, of his old self  ;)



The longboard discussion vids:

BigBoy


Oldy:


Pollywaffle Pro:


Longboard Pro (with explanation of the Pro T3 version)
Note: some "Bert & Ernie" out takes between Bert and Tino, as they make the video... good look at how they interact  :)


Lastly.... Justin Redman showing that Sunova longboards work  :)


now.... grab a beer, sit back and get to work! ;D

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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2020, 01:39:14 PM »
I think your buddy may be the same guy who had my old RNB- and if so probably the same size as me and i TOTALLY agree.

My friend who bought your RNB is a different guy.  But he surfs a high volume longboard too--an Infinity Secret Weapon.  He LOVES both boards (RNB & the Secret Weapon).

Walden Magic Model: 8'0 x 22, 57 L
Infinity Secret Weapon: 9'0 x 24, 95 L
(this picture is from 2015...his son is now taller than he is)


Infinity RNB: 8'8 x 31, 135 L


I was so impressed at the gains my friends made on their high volume longboads (Walden Mega and the Infinity Secret Weapon) that I had Kronos shape a custom high volume longboard for another friend of mine.  She's a light weight and needed something a little smaller and lighter than the Mega or Secret Weapon).  This Kronos longboard is 8'8 x 23, 78 L.

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Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2020, 01:49:30 PM »
I love the tail shape in the Big Boy and Pro Sunovas for beach breaks. So much rocker in a longboard! Stewart Redline, Walden Mega looks to have the same plan shape. For beach breaks I think the shorter high volume (8', 8-6) is the way to go.

I was trying to describe above that a blocky high volume tail (traditional longboard) is hard to use in dumpy beach break (like Texas). If you can get the tail more "in" the wave, instead of on or over it during the takeoff, you have a longer opportunity to stand up. Hard to describe but, on a small wave you can imagine the blockier tail floats up crest of the wave, causing a steeper takeoff, and pearling becomes an issue for a longboard. A more narrow tail will be "in" the crest and decrease the angle of the board to suit. With most of the volume under your chest, the pop up should be stable. The plan and thinness of the Sunova rails look to be a good way of going about that. Shortboards, you want the entire length of the board on the wave as steep as possible during the take off. Late take offs on longboard you want the nose above the water a little bit. Maybe thats just me, but I find taking off on a longboard in steep small waves to be pretty hard.

However, every long board works if you can get good at one or more of:

-Angled take off
-A quick pop up
-Getting up and trimmed before the sandbar (paddle power)

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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2020, 08:21:18 PM »
an option is to find a local shaper; you can probably get a custom board made by someone who knows the area, for a reasonable price.  Plus you'll be supporting a local shop/shaper.  Rise surfboard in Texas City and Surf Specialties in Galveston shape boards, and have heard great things about them.  They both have websites, so can find them on Google.

Thanks for the advice on the local shapers. I'll hunt for their websites.
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« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2020, 08:25:18 PM »
@ supthecreek

Thanks for all of the videos since I'm going to be laid up a lot longer than anticipated since I ran into a complication from my procedure. So I'll have lots of time on my hands to view those videos over and over and over again.
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« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2020, 08:29:54 PM »
@ surfafrica

Ooh! That Kronos is definitely a "looker". And thanks for showing the underside of the board letting me those 5 fin boxes. Have I every mentioned on this site I am a big fan of 5 fin boxes?  ;)

Thanks for all of the photos of the other boards too.
Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2020, 08:37:42 PM »
I love the tail shape in the Big Boy and Pro Sunovas for beach breaks. So much rocker in a longboard! Stewart Redline, Walden Mega looks to have the same plan shape. For beach breaks I think the shorter high volume (8', 8-6) is the way to go.

I was trying to describe above that a blocky high volume tail (traditional longboard) is hard to use in dumpy beach break (like Texas).

I found a very short video of a woman who is surfing small beach break waves on her Walden 9'6" Magic. These types of waves are found on the upper Texas coast.

Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
Sup Sports Hammer: 8'11" x 31" x 4" @ 140 Liters
SUP Sports One World: 11'1" x 30" x 4.5" @ 173 Liters