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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2020, 12:31:15 AM »
This is killing me.  F-One was hands down the brand to beat.

Then 2 Weeks ago I was about to put a deposit down for a 6.0 Naish V2.  My friend says "No you need the Duotone.  You're an X-Windsurfer and you will love the boom."

Then people tell me the battens break on the Duotone, I'll have to wait if I order one . . . .

This morning my Foil amigo Josh (has a DW board and Naish v2 wing) says "Slingshot V2 is the way to go."

In my head I have bought and sailed all of them but I have analysis paralysis.

Now I want the slingshot V2.  5.4 Meters unlesss it will be too small.

Prefer to sail in 10 - 15 knots weight 185.

Beasho, I am you neighbor (I live 2 blocks from you and you pass my house everyday on your way to and from your favorite SUP foil spot). I have tapped your vast knowledge many times regarding SUP and SUP foiling. I just received my 5.4m Slingwing v2 yesterday (...also have a 4m Cabrinha wing which I started on). 4m has been good for the windiest sessions (over 20 mph) but can be frustrating when lighter. I am starting to get some good wing sessions on the bay and in the harbor. I haven't tried the Slingwing v2 yet. Had a good session at 3rd Avenue today, but it was too windy for the 5.4m -- an OK problem to have. I flew Jeff Clark's 5m F'one the other day in the harbor on S winds and it was very nice (I already had this Slingwing v2 ordered). F'one 5m had much more power than my 4m kite. Good luck in your choice. All the choices you mentioned are great and I believe will get the job done. For learning, lots of wind power (windspeed + kitewing size) and big foil front wing have been key for me. Personally, I need a lot more than 10-15 knots (for my 4m). I am just learning and you have many resources that are further along on the wingding learning curve... but let me know if I can help and feel free to come check out the SS Slingwing v2 anytime. P.S. I have been getting really good SUP sessions on the beach break at the end of the street tonight, this week and recently. liv2surf
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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2020, 09:18:15 AM »
I'm open to/would appreciate any feedback anyone has. I've been on the fence about getting into Winging for a bit- but getting close to jumping in.  I'm caught in the exact same conundrum as Beasho. I'd pretty much decided on a Naish s25 6.0... did more homework and am now luffing badly- dead in a sea of information.  The good news is it looks like w/ advances, I'll likely be fine whatever direction I go.

I'm about 195 lbs, have a 6-0 x 28, 110L SUP. My biggest foil-wing is an axis 1000. I'm in SoCal so local conditions are mostly 10-15 kts. often less, occasionally better. I know a 1020 would be ideal but budget doesn't allow both a foil-wing and wind-wing. I oscillate / have hovered over the buy button on the following makes- Naish s25, Ozone Wasp, Slingshot V2 and size:  5.0ish or 6.0ish

My take on what I read about wings I'm considering +/- s :

Ozone Wasp:
+:   Light, super solid,large leading edge/boom, heaps of low end grunt to get up easy. Y handles. Proven wing w/ heaps of riders/credible endorsements
- : More sensitive to gusts, upwind not as good as s25 , 6.0 difficult in surf/catch wingtips, No window/safety?

Slingshot V2:
+: Light, super solid,large leading edge/boom, heaps of low end grunt to get up easy. Y handles.  Maybe less cumbersome in turns/surf w/ cutoff/narrow wingspan?
- : More sensitive to gusts, upwind not as good as s25. Brand new- good online reviews but not too many people on them, no window/safety?

Naish s25:
+ : Smooth easy power, handling, handles gusts well, window. smaller leading edge- great upwind. Proven wing w/ heaps of riders/credible endorsements
- : Less feel/grunt low end/harder for newbie to get on foil low wind, no Y handle. Window maintenance/storage.

I'm all over the map as to wing make. Naish s25 don't seem to be available until the end of the month.

Size:
My intended use is downwind and surf. I'm certain a 5.0 would be enough, preferred long term, but suspect the 6.0 would make learning in my local conditions, on an axis 1000 easier/more realistic.  Is Slingshot 5.4 a good compromise?

Leaning toward 6.0


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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2020, 09:23:02 AM »
Side note- I wonder what foil that kid is riding in that promo video? Looks like a Mike's Lab kite racing foil with a slingshot sticker on it. Hmmm

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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2020, 09:51:24 AM »
Hey All-Wet, I'm 185 lbs probably 190+ with the full rubber on here in Canada.  I've got a 116 lt board (getting a 75lt 5'0 sky wing), Axis 1000/370 foil and I went with the Naish 5.3m as my "big" wing and have never had any regrets. It is a fantastic wing, incredible upwind performance, great build quality and provides me lots of low end power to get going and do what i want. I figure I'm getting flying in about 13 on the low end right now (no whitecaps) and always getting better and pushing that lower!  If it's your first time winging you will need more wind to get the hang of it, but will quickly advance and get more efficient. My prime objective was to not get into the 6m+ wings,  I really don't want or need to go winging when it's flat and hardly any wind, and like my windsurfing background did not want to "carry" around a big sail. Everyone who has used a 6m+ has commented on how they catch or trip up in the waves due to their size. So if you're into downwinders, swell and wave riding I'd stick to the 5's. I'm loving the Naish 5.3m and Axis 1000 combo, I'm sure the Fone 5m and the Ozone 5m are equally capable on the low end, with the Naish probably having the edge in upwind and window visibility.
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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2020, 10:19:07 AM »
You need a 6.0 at your weight and conditions.

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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2020, 11:21:36 AM »
I'm caught in the exact same conundrum as Beasho. I'd pretty much decided on a Naish s25 6.0... did more homework and am now luffing badly- dead in a sea of information.  The good news is it looks like w/ advances, I'll likely be fine whatever direction I go.
Just to throw more confusion into the mix RP, this is "AB" on his Gong 7M having a blast in what he said were 7-9kn winds at the lake....

...but that's only if you want to go through this to get it:(

EDIT: Underwater is the GL210 and 18W stab just for comparison.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2020, 11:24:13 AM by SanoSlatchSup »
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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2020, 05:12:46 PM »
I'm caught in the exact same conundrum as Beasho. I'd pretty much decided on a Naish s25 6.0... did more homework and am now luffing badly- dead in a sea of information.  The good news is it looks like w/ advances, I'll likely be fine whatever direction I go.
Just to throw more confusion into the mix RP, this is "AB" on his Gong 7M having a blast in what he said were 7-9kn winds at the lake....

...but that's only if you want to go through this to get it:(

EDIT: Underwater is the GL210 and 18W stab just for comparison.

Needs more handles ;)  Pretty impressive light wind performance and skills. Since I have already temporarily derailed this thread, I'd like to ask if anyone can explain the design logic of that pickle fork board design?  I saw something similar in the Armstrong collection or Armstrong video.
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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2020, 07:09:45 PM »
With the kind of wind you are dealing with a 6M will be the most fun. the torque of a 6 lets me (225#) yank my board off the water when it's light. The five gets close, but the 6 is my goto all the way up to 25mph wind. Especially if the lulls are substantial.

I'm wedded to the F-ones. I've tried most of the others, started with Duotones to 5M, and I'm happy with the F-one though I like the new Naish. I want to try the new Duotones in large sizes. I liked the boom a LOT. I use a fake boom on my F-ones. If the new Duotones are as stable as people say then when my F-ones age out I'll probably go that way.
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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2020, 09:23:21 PM »
Was pretty impressed with the F One 6 Meter. It's extremely lightweight for it's size, definitely lighter than my Gong pulse 5M and noticeably more powerful. Only spent an hour on it but seemed very well behaved and pumped up on to the foil in 2-3 pumps in next to nothing. For lighter winds weight definitely makes a difference though it looks like the Slingshot V2 is a pretty simple design and probably a similar weight.

Btw, Airtime did a great job fixing my Pulse 5M, really have to study it to see the repair. Took it out today without the battens which noticeably lightened it up. Couldn't really tell if there was any performance difference, even in some gusts into the low 20's :)

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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2020, 11:09:04 PM »
All good input- much thanks all. Yeah... 6.0 seems the safer bet- more water-time the better getting started.  That's settled. Availability might make my decision for me with the brand issue. Fortunately w/ 2nd gen, there are about 5-6 makes that  . 

Hey Sano-  first thing I saw was--------the pickle-fork board. How's he liking that?

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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2020, 11:38:32 PM »
Hey Sano-  first thing I saw was--------the pickle-fork board. How's he liking that?
Yeah, I had to text him to see if it was cool that I post the above clip, as I wasn't sure if he was ready to set it out on the internet. Obviously he was OK with it, and he's loving the pickle-fork.

Had it in the surf for the first time Wed, where it took him about 3 waves to figure it out, and flying the living daylights out of it.

Said it felt more stable both just paddling, poking it through whitewater (about 3-4' at times), and up in the air. Seems to hop it up on take off even more than he did his old one, and you know how he got dang near everything he wanted with that one. With the pickle, he was one paddle/pump and up...kinda disgusting honestly. :o

He was stoked with the reduced swing weight, and said the "V" was kind of like a gunsight looking through it down the face. All-in-all he was just killing it, and it was a perfect match to his "angledfoil"...the bastard. :( :D
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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2020, 03:04:47 AM »
If the new Duotones are as stable as people say then when my F-ones age out I'll probably go that way.

You had a funnier out-take on this statement last night.

Just ordered the Slingshot V2.  6.4 Meters.  I will be relegated back to beginner status.  Nice!

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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2020, 12:15:50 AM »
What do you think is the upper windlimit for a 5.4 for a 90kg / 200lbs rider?
I'm looking for an alternative for high wind windsurfing in choppy water, when there's no wave to shred. This feels boring fast.
But doing downwinders in these conditions with my Supfoil could spice if up.
I'm just not sure if the 5.4 is too big for 15 - 30 knots, or could cover such a range at all.
The 5ish wings seem to be the recommendation for a one wing quiver for 90 kg guys.
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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2020, 08:17:50 AM »
What do you think is the upper windlimit for a 5.4 for a 90kg / 200lbs rider?
I'm looking for an alternative for high wind windsurfing in choppy water, when there's no wave to shred. This feels boring fast.
But doing downwinders in these conditions with my Supfoil could spice if up.
I'm just not sure if the 5.4 is too big for 15 - 30 knots, or could cover such a range at all.
The 5ish wings seem to be the recommendation for a one wing quiver for 90 kg guys.
Alex

Thatís a question there is no answer for. There is no limit, if flying with it over your head, letting it flap so bad, the canopy is aging by the minute, and you donít mind controlling the foil with the wing buffeting you around. People do this everyday when they only own one size.


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Re: Slingshot V2
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2020, 08:28:16 AM »
Slingwing v2 Review: I have had 3 sessions on my new 5.4m Slingwing v2. I LOVE it. My first wing was a 4m Cabrinha Crosswing. I am an advanced beginner winger (can foil both directions, get way up wind and return to where I launched. I have had about a dozen good sessions and as many really bad ones before that, usually when not powered up enough). I love the wingtips as I have dipped them and run over wing much LESS frequently than on my 4m. The 4 rear handles are brilliant (I am pretty sure 4 rear handles- definitely not 3 like all the pictures show. I will update if this is wrong). I have used them all and use multiple handles on every reach. I often use a more ďaftĒ (more power) handle to get up and easily change to more forward handles when riding. The wing just floats effortlessly during handle changes and wing transitions (and I suspect during drifting while riding waves). The multiple handles also gives this kite a huge wind range and comfort factor. The wing pumps well, which is also aided by the chopped wingtips. The inflation system and dump valve is great. Oh, the Y handles are wonderful (I didnít have those before). I am using them more on my port tack (my strong side). I like the ergonomics and control and I think they allow for more power (not sure?). I havenít used the transfer handle much but will try to figure out what it is good for. The wing is light and the fabric sheds water like I donít remember on my 4m. Getting wing back in bag is a bit of a Houdini actÖ. but I think I figured it out after having one bad fail. I like the harness line connection points but am still struggling with interference between wing leash, harness line and hook. I donít know the best placement of all of these hookups (I am just using a webbing belt as the harness). This wing has already allowed me to progress due to its size and excellent design and performance. All in all, I love this wing!! I am planning to get a Slingwing v2 in 4m or a 4.4m (canít decide: I kite 20-25mph winds regularly and have 2000cm^2 foil and big board). I couldnít be happier with the Slingwing v.2.
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