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obxDave

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Re: Carving 360's
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2020, 11:58:20 PM »
F-yeah!! Claim it!!

That's awesome!

Thanks for the stoke but you are killing me at the same time. Water here is still 40į and my dealer can't get the S25 from Naish yet because of supply chain issues surrounding Covid. Argghh!!

Yeah, soundside water temp here is in the 58-63 deg range. ~52 deg was my wimpy lower winter tolerance limit with a hooded/bootied 4/3.  Oceanside still too cold. Itís all pretty gusty frontal stuff but winging seems to deal with it well. Still only few short sessions with my 5.3 S25.  Ordered a pair of Duotone Echoís and also doing the wait thing.....

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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2020, 06:42:01 AM »
Looking good Dave, I thought you were trying to go for the push down wind ride. The 360, you're doing is a little easier. You have the wing pointed down which is great for dumping the wind off but I noticed you're not looking out in front of the wing. Look past the wing in the direction you're going and you'll start to shoot out of the turn with speed. The gong video https://youtu.be/Cupp2PfNpEk and http://korvenn-wing-and-foil.com/index.php/2020/01/02/le-360-en-wing-surf/?fbclid=IwAR0gJbZBPEQbwNC3ptC1jQUUoVbPI0nzeBK9TVYoUmAgbaDY0TGZcuDaW_w are the two videos that taught me. I figured out the look past the wing (not down) on my own. The pointing the wing down also helps to stall it in the wind window so when you go for a longer down wind push, key is to not dump it all off or you'll come right around into the 360. But remember to dump it off when you're ready to come into the 360. If you're coming off foil, just pump the board. 2-3 pumps and you'll stay on foil.

obxDave

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Re: Carving 360's
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2020, 12:58:23 AM »
That second day out I was a bit underpowered on the 4m, so when I tried to sail backwinded I just wasnít efficient enough with the wing to stay up on foil. Still trying to feel out that ideal wing position while on the backside.  After a few falls I figured Iíd just try carrying as much speed as I could into a continuous (donít stop halfway) 360 attempt, and it seemed to have worked. Guess Iíll need to be a bit more powered to sustain any backwinded riding, at least for now.

I do tend to look down a lot, especially when learning something new. Itís a weird thing. Itís like Iím trying to go by feel and not focus on one thing (like looking ahead), since I have no muscle memory for the transition. Iíll probably think about looking past the wing next time out,.....and fall a bunch over thinking it! Good point though :).

Iím also still a lousy pumper, not coming from a SUP/surf foil background. But pumping during transitions, and just pumping in general is a big goal for me this year. Last session was just too light for my winging gear, so I kite foiled instead. My so-so kitefoiling 360ís feel completely different from the wing version. Lots to work on....
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Re: Carving 360's
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2020, 06:49:36 PM »
That is some impressive foiling. Really like the sort of duck jibe 360 but maybe the most amazing move is at about 4:45 by that kite foiler. Just one hand on the board :o

Does anyone else think that's being played at 1.1 or 1.2x speed? Those guys are amazing but some of it just looks... unnatural.

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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2020, 10:12:09 PM »
Mike's Lab foils are fast. Heineken is also a bad ass foil racer so probly going at actual speed. Super cool to see the guys throwing down together and so close to each other. I'm sure if wing races catches on, Mike's Lab stuff will be on the top of the podium.

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Re: Carving 360's
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2020, 12:19:49 AM »
Does anyone else think that's being played at 1.1 or 1.2x speed? Those guys are amazing but some of it just looks... unnatural.

Yes! Looked a bit that way to me too, but still very impressive.
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Re: Carving 360's
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2020, 08:06:53 AM »
That is some impressive foiling. Really like the sort of duck jibe 360 but maybe the most amazing move is at about 4:45 by that kite foiler. Just one hand on the board :o

Does anyone else think that's being played at 1.1 or 1.2x speed? Those guys are amazing but some of it just looks... unnatural.

Look at the water.  All the white caps, or lack of white caps, are moving at the apparent correct speed.

This is all filmed in Rio Vista California just past Antioch.  I haven't journeyed there in ~ 15 years but given my new purchase of a wing that may change.  Back to the Future.  That place with consistent wind at 6 am would be a foilers dream.  It can get nearly as windy as the Gorge but probably has way, way more light days than I ever appreciated. 

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Re: Carving 360's
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2020, 10:01:39 AM »



Look at the water.  All the white caps, or lack of white caps, are moving at the apparent correct speed.

 

Could be it's my life moving at .9x by comparison ;D

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Re: Carving 360's
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2020, 12:42:09 AM »
Very first full on-the-foil 360 completed yesterday with some actual exit speed  :). Sorry no camera at the time. Modestly Powered with a 5m Echo, Moses 1100/450/72cm mast and 5í1Ē/90l  FSM board.

I still finish off the foil and crash a lot doing this trick, but getting first clean one was worthy of the happy scream of joy (far from anyone to see or hear). And now that Iíve publicly divulged this info, I probably wonít make another clean one  for some time to come :P

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Re: Carving 360's
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2020, 06:45:47 AM »
Very first full on-the-foil 360 completed yesterday with some actual exit speed  :). Sorry no camera at the time. Modestly Powered with a 5m Echo, Moses 1100/450/72cm mast and 5í1Ē/90l  FSM board.

I still finish off the foil and crash a lot doing this trick, but getting first clean one was worthy of the happy scream of joy (far from anyone to see or hear).

I heard and saw it (coming toward you from outside Big Penguin Island).  Good scream, great 360 exit!!

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Re: Carving 360's
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2020, 02:15:54 PM »
Very first full on-the-foil 360 completed yesterday with some actual exit speed  :). Sorry no camera at the time. Modestly Powered with a 5m Echo, Moses 1100/450/72cm mast and 5í1Ē/90l  FSM board.

I still finish off the foil and crash a lot doing this trick, but getting first clean one was worthy of the happy scream of joy (far from anyone to see or hear).

I heard and saw it (coming toward you from outside Big Penguin Island).  Good scream, great 360 exit!!

I stand corrected!  (Iím in my own little world out there.....) When your Axis 1150 arrives we should do a side by side swap comparison with the Moses W1100 and the Gong Veloce XL

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Re: Carving 360's
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2020, 06:41:13 PM »
When your Axis 1150 arrives we should do a side by side swap comparison with the Moses W1100 and the Gong Veloce XL

Looking forward to the report on that comparison :)

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Re: Carving 360's
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2020, 08:00:43 PM »
Finally starting to make more of my 360ís  up on the foil. :) This is with the new Echoís and the Moses  W1100. Also getting more used to making the 1100 turn a wee bit more aggressively than when I first started riding it.  That is one wide foil.... .  Iíll have to try them on my Gong XL pro

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Re: Carving 360's
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2020, 09:22:56 PM »
Dude, well done! I really want to see one of these from a drone angle. Need to do some YouTube searching.

And yes, you guys update the Gong thread when you get those high aspect wings.

 


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