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Re: Wing Foil tips for beginners- Wing Surf voice-over video
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2020, 10:27:36 AM »
Recently we had several accidents with punctured wings and I lost my wing due to a torn leash- learn from our screw ups and more voiceover tips, I hope it's helpful:

https://youtu.be/9WRkNPXEvlw
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Re: Wing Foil tips for beginners- Wing Surf voice-over video
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2020, 03:53:21 AM »
Robert, you definitely convinced me that a pole mounted on a waist harness is not a cam mount option for me! Seeing that stuck between the boom and the wing was all I needed to see. I made a simple (quick and dirty)  short boom extension to mount a GoPro Max off the back of the boom. Just enough distance to give a reasonable view of the entire wing and rider without a huge amount of distortion.  Didn’t seem to affect wing performance from my experience

I have no doubt you will love the new Echo’s right away. Wonderful improvement. If a 61 yr old weak klutz like me can adapt to a 6m, you will be screaming on it in 10 minutes. Much better luffing and amazing how high you can point upwind with these Gen 2 wings.

Side note; your 5’8” Carver is still going strong with a local friend who joined us wing foiling this spring.

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Re: Wing Foil tips for beginners- Wing Surf voice-over video
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2020, 12:46:08 PM »
Thanks Dave,
I got to try the 6M Echo wing for two days in a row.  You are right, it's a great wing and it luffs well on the wave, it's a game-changer for lighter wind days for me.

Nice setup with the boom extension, I might try that as well.  I just ordered the GoPro Max, what is your workflow for editing the video?
Stoked to hear the 5'8 Carver is still being used!
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Re: Wing Foil tips for beginners- Wing Surf voice-over video
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2020, 03:47:39 PM »
Thanks Dave,
I got to try the 6M Echo wing for two days in a row.  You are right, it's a great wing and it luffs well on the wave, it's a game-changer for lighter wind days for me.

Nice setup with the boom extension, I might try that as well.  I just ordered the GoPro Max, what is your workflow for editing the video?
Stoked to hear the 5'8 Carver is still being used!

Sorry for the topic diversion but here is my Go Pro Max work flow (I’m not a tech geek so excuse any mistakes)

1.) I use the GoPro App on my IPad Pro to link with my Max camera. The app will link with any of the  GoPro‘s back to a Hero 2.

2.) I can view all captured video in low resolution format directly on the camera from the app on my IPad without having to download any footage. An hours worth of video is typically broken down into ~8 min clips. The App will allow me to play/scroll the video clips and do a quick-and-dirty-on-the-fly reframe to figure out what I want to keep.

3.) The App allows me trim out and save any time segment I chose. For that hour of 360 video, I might save 10 clips totaling 4 min, just as an example. Those ten clips get saved to the App on my Tablet. I have not done any official reframing yet. It’s still in 360 format.  No sense downloading all 60 min of video. Takes a long time, your hard drive fills up fast, and doing a full reframe for an hour of video is laborious.

4.) with the small 360 clips in the app, I now do the reframing. It sounds labor intensive but it’s not that bad for the four min worth of video I collected. Easy point and slide. It’s really pretty cool to quickly spin to view at any angle you want.  After  I’ve reframed each clip and go to save it, it gets rendered as a traditional 1440\60 video clip and saved back into the GoPro app.

5.) I’ll take the rendered saved clips and finally save copies of them to my files on my IPad

6.) I do my final video edit using a standard video editor Luma Fusion on my IPad, where I can do all the typical stuff like slo-mo, titles, transitions, music/audio, etc

It sounds labor intensive but it’s not that bad after a little practice. Even sitting through an hour of video goes fast because you can scroll through the timeline at 2-3x speed when looking at the raw low res footage on the camera card

Back on topic. Speaking of useful wing foiling training videos, I would love to see something dealing with two surf issues;  1) techniques for getting out past shore break conditions and 2) dealing with getting caught in the impact zone.  We mostly get to see all the cool stuff when things are going well. I want to know what happens to that pro rider AFTER he wipes out in the middle of the impact zone!   Maybe some overlap with SUP and prone surf foiling do’s and don’ts (?)
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Re: Wing Foil tips for beginners- Wing Surf voice-over video
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2020, 07:48:12 PM »
Thank you for the 3D edit tips.  I had a Garmin 360 camera but stopped using it because the editing process was too complicated and time-consuming, it sounds easier with the gopro app.

Getting caught in the impact zone with a wing is not good.  If you can, fly/ throw your wing over the wave that helps but that's not always possible, like if you wipe out right in front of the wave.  As mentioned in the video, my boom came off and my wrist leash broke when I got worked by a big whitewater wave.  I lost the wing and someone collected it two miles downwind and I finally got it back two weeks later.  So my tip: avoid getting worked with a wing and get a stronger leash than what comes with the wings.   Same for shorebreak, if you can't paddle out through it quickly during a lull, avoid big shore break. 
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Re: Wing Foil tips for beginners- Wing Surf voice-over video
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2020, 11:59:53 PM »
Getting caught in the impact zone with a wing is not good.  If you can, fly/ throw your wing over the wave that helps but that's not always possible, like if you wipe out right in front of the wave.  As mentioned in the video, my boom came off and my wrist leash broke when I got worked by a big whitewater wave.  I lost the wing and someone collected it two miles downwind and I finally got it back two weeks later.  So my tip: avoid getting worked with a wing and get a stronger leash than what comes with the wings.   Same for shorebreak, if you can't paddle out through it quickly during a lull, avoid big shore break.

Yep, my biggest fear is doing a whitewash tumble with a foil rig on a fairly short 8 ft coil waist leash. I think you mentioned using a “real leash” to deal with that situation. I have one and definitely plan on using it for ocean side riding.

I’ve heard some other riders mention the “wing throw” method. Sounds a bit sketchy at best. Heck, those little leash attachment loops sewn into the leading edge don’t look like they’d survive very well even with super strong leash on your wrist.

Our oceanside surf conditions in the Outer Banks for wind sports (kiting, windsurfing, and Winging) kinda  suck compared to the west coast or Hawaii. No decent outside reefs here. Mostly shore break at high tide and close out sets on small close-in sand bars at low tide. Wing foiling winds usually result in pretty messy looking blown out short period waves in onshore winds. Side shore and slight side off winds might work ok. I figure I will stick to lighter side-on to side-off winds and low tide waist high max conditions for a better chance of not getting worked!

One good thing about Kites, they’re pretty easy to keep in the air and they can haul you out of the impact zone quickly. A wing is definitely a bit more of a liability than an asset :o
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