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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #90 on: August 01, 2020, 09:33:13 PM »
The new mast is a pretty nice part, but it's damned heavy. I took one apart today to make a carbon boom for a friend. I can see the point for 6 and 7M, if for no other reason that 210cm (nearly 7 feet) for the 7M boom is a very long span. Then again, the last time I saw an aluminum boom on a windsurfer was probably sometime in the 90's. I know they still make them, but I don't know who buys them. Certainly none of the geezer windsurfers I know.
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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #91 on: August 02, 2020, 03:08:09 AM »
Awesome.  Klaas Voget.  So many sick moves and I have never seen him switch his feet.

https://www.facebook.com/klaasvoget/videos/2755337538037462
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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #92 on: August 02, 2020, 03:38:03 AM »
PS:  Pretty interesting what he has to say about pairing smaller foils (looks like he is riding the 1250) with longer fuselages and loving them in the turns.  I see that he (and Fanatic) are suggesting their 80 cm fuselage with these newer wings.  That is 4 cm longer than even the Axis Standard.  My recent journey to ultra short sent me back to short really quickly with smaller wings and now I am wondering if standard may be even better again.  I didn't notice any benefit to the Ultra Short.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Ip_87_QxU
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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #93 on: August 21, 2020, 11:57:26 AM »

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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #94 on: August 21, 2020, 11:32:44 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jacDt6DYeKs

Notice that even though he could readily pump up onto the foil with that beeeeg 7m in those really light winds, he couldnít complete any of his transitions on the foil. You know itís not a lack of rider skill in this case. Iíve been out in conditions like that and unless I could time the transition perfectly with a gust AND pump a lot I wouldnít stay up on foil.  This video just convinced my even more that riding my 6m in 10-15 is about as low as Iíd go and still have fun with transitions ON the foil.  If itís on the light side of that 10-15 then itís kitefoil time. No interest in that 7m at all!

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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #95 on: August 22, 2020, 07:52:45 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jacDt6DYeKs

Notice that even though he could readily pump up onto the foil with that beeeeg 7m in those really light winds, he couldnít complete any of his transitions on the foil. You know itís not a lack of rider skill in this case. Iíve been out in conditions like that and unless I could time the transition perfectly with a gust AND pump a lot I wouldnít stay up on foil.  This video just convinced my even more that riding my 6m in 10-15 is about as low as Iíd go and still have fun with transitions ON the foil.  If itís on the light side of that 10-15 then itís kitefoil time. No interest in that 7m at all!

100% agree! And also video shows him only one tack - probably his strong side. I have 6m swing and can fly in 8-9 mph with m280 front wing but no luck with transitions. Also pumping on the foil in those light winds with my wrong foot forward seems to be an undertaking.
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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #96 on: August 22, 2020, 08:14:17 AM »
Gz, you might try the GL240 for light wind, it's got all the lift of the 280 with a lot less drag and it pumps really well with the pedestal tail. I hated it, but I didn't give it the time I should have. I was in the middle of transitioning to the Axis foils because I like the fuselage attachments, so I was impatient with getting used to the 240. For that matter, Alex told me to ditch the 240 and get a 210 which made me even more disappointed with the wing, but that was for surfing, not winging. I suspect now that I'm used to the characteristics of the Axis 1150, which is very similar, that I'd like the 240 just fine.
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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #97 on: August 22, 2020, 09:03:37 AM »
Bill, gl240 has been picking my interest recently. I went out yesterday with 210 in 11-14 mph winds and 6m swing and the initial lift is less than the old wings but itís so awesome once flying, so efficient and fun. I definitely think of switching/adding gls to mu quiver. The only limiting factor for me yesterday was the old maliko tail, once I hit 17mph that tail becomes like unbalanced tires on the car  ;D. But yeah 210 ruled my world yesterday, but when wind lulled to about 10 that was it - I didnít have enough to get going. So 240 might be the ticket.
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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #98 on: August 22, 2020, 09:32:24 AM »
the GL240 has a lot more lift, including early lift.  It rides like similar to the whole GL line, but I wouldn't use it in waves.  Tried a few times and it was a real dog turning.  On flatwater pumping it goes really well though

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« Reply #99 on: August 22, 2020, 04:06:47 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jacDt6DYeKs

Notice that even though he could readily pump up onto the foil with that beeeeg 7m in those really light winds, he couldnít complete any of his transitions on the foil. You know itís not a lack of rider skill in this case. Iíve been out in conditions like that and unless I could time the transition perfectly with a gust AND pump a lot I wouldnít stay up on foil.  This video just convinced my even more that riding my 6m in 10-15 is about as low as Iíd go and still have fun with transitions ON the foil.  If itís on the light side of that 10-15 then itís kitefoil time. No interest in that 7m at all!
Actually I think it was rider skill and possibly his foil that was preventing him from foiling out of those transitions in the video. I had my best light wind session yet last night on my 7m Echo, 5'4" 110 L and the Axis 1150. I'm about 245 lbs. Was able to just glide along for 2 hours with no issue foiling through transitions. It was like this crazy glidey, slow motion session with butter smooth transitions. Once the 1150 gets going it just wants to keep going not matter how light the wind is. I'd say it was blowing 10-15 mph. My buddy Craig was kitefoiling on his 18m R1V2 race kite. The 7m Echo is a hands down winner for a rider my size. So powerful. Even pulled off my first two duck gybe attempts. The 7m Echo is glorious.

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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #100 on: August 29, 2020, 06:55:59 PM »
New unboxing video on the Unit.  Enjoy!
https://youtu.be/6YUCqUcGSCU
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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #101 on: August 29, 2020, 07:14:37 PM »
Bill, gl240 has been picking my interest recently. I went out yesterday with 210 in 11-14 mph winds and 6m swing and the initial lift is less than the old wings but itís so awesome once flying, so efficient and fun. I definitely think of switching/adding gls to mu quiver. The only limiting factor for me yesterday was the old maliko tail, once I hit 17mph that tail becomes like unbalanced tires on the car  ;D. But yeah 210 ruled my world yesterday, but when wind lulled to about 10 that was it - I didnít have enough to get going. So 240 might be the ticket.

Yeah, get rid of that tail and go for a pedestal.
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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #102 on: August 29, 2020, 09:49:06 PM »
New unboxing video on the Unit.  Enjoy!
https://youtu.be/6YUCqUcGSCU

Great video Dan, thanks for posting.  I bought the 6m and your deflating/packing instruction was very helpful.
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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #103 on: August 30, 2020, 10:41:31 AM »
Nice user review of both the 7 metre Echo and the 5 metre Unit in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpGV4hBESbw&t=11s

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Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE
« Reply #104 on: September 10, 2020, 10:25:41 PM »
does anyone know if the Echo 7m requires the little extension line for the draft control line when using the longer boom?
I understand that's the only boom that works for the 7m, so likely wouldn't be required. but can't find a way to confirm that.
thanks

 


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