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Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« on: September 23, 2019, 01:47:25 PM »
Revisiting an inquiry into board platforms that can be used for multiple foil sports, since I saw this 2020 offering from Fanatic:

https://www.fanatic.com/sup/composite-boards/foil/sky-sup-foil-ws

6'11" with a step-tail, and it looks like the mast track is wildly close to the front foot in comparison with most ws foil boards. Seems like an ideal shape for sup foil downwinding and wing foiling, but maybe awkward for windsurfing?

The Naish Hover crossover seems to have a more normal mast track to front footstraps distance.

https://www.naishsails.com/product/hover-crossover-

Any experience with either of these boards or speculations about their performance prospects? The characteristics I'm looking for are:

1. Playful smaller alternative to my current windsurf foil platform which is a huge 230x100 cm formula board.
2. Works for sup foil (most interested in downwind sup foil)
3. Works for wing foil in case I get a wing at some point

Right now I think #1 is the most important for me.

PS- I got to try WINGsurfing this weekend with my buddy's 5.0 Duotone wing. We used it on my 10'4 windsup first, then a 6'6 foil sup. Pretty easy on the first board, pretty hard on the second board. Low performance compared to foil windsurfing. When I wasn't taking a turn on buddy's wingading I was sailing circles around him with my 4.7 sail and foil-equipped formula board. Still, there's a lure to wing thing, and I like the idea of using a smaller board for my foil windsurfing that I could also use as a foil sup for downwinding or gentle waves.
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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2019, 03:45:52 PM »
SUP’s windsurf foil poorly compared to real windsurf foilboards. Moving the foil way forward in the board, makes it loose its mind. Doesn’t track as straight, doesn’t go upwind as good, spins like a top when you grab the uphaul...just a hot mess compared to the real thing.

For wing dinging, focus on that need when picking a board.

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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2019, 08:07:47 PM »
Revisiting an inquiry into board platforms that can be used for multiple foil sports, since I saw this 2020 offering from Fanatic:

https://www.fanatic.com/sup/composite-boards/foil/sky-sup-foil-ws

6'11" with a step-tail, and it looks like the mast track is wildly close to the front foot in comparison with most ws foil boards. Seems like an ideal shape for sup foil downwinding and wing foiling, but maybe awkward for windsurfing?

The Naish Hover crossover seems to have a more normal mast track to front footstraps distance.

https://www.naishsails.com/product/hover-crossover-

Any experience with either of these boards or speculations about their performance prospects? The characteristics I'm looking for are:

1. Playful smaller alternative to my current windsurf foil platform which is a huge 230x100 cm formula board.
2. Works for sup foil (most interested in downwind sup foil)
3. Works for wing foil in case I get a wing at some point

Right now I think #1 is the most important for me.

PS- I got to try WINGsurfing this weekend with my buddy's 5.0 Duotone wing. We used it on my 10'4 windsup first, then a 6'6 foil sup. Pretty easy on the first board, pretty hard on the second board. Low performance compared to foil windsurfing. When I wasn't taking a turn on buddy's wingading I was sailing circles around him with my 4.7 sail and foil-equipped formula board. Still, there's a lure to wing thing, and I like the idea of using a smaller board for my foil windsurfing that I could also use as a foil sup for downwinding or gentle waves.
I was interested in these too specifically the reg sky supfoil 6’11” as it looks nice board for bigger riders like myself and had a old fanatic AW and build quality is pretty stout,So I contacted them and just like the wingwing advertising hype months in advance then are not available,wa wa to who knows when?they said not till Dec so I’m guessing next year jokester marketing, maybe it’s just the states who knows so my interest faded rapido.why market hype them in July/aug when you can’t get em till 6 months later😡good luck
« Last Edit: September 23, 2019, 08:11:30 PM by paddlur »
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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2019, 10:40:38 AM »
I did not use a wind foil board for winging because I noticed all the SUPs had the foil track much further forward then the dedicated wind foil board.

I assume this has to do with Mast Foot Pressure which you have a lot of up front on the wind foil and none when Winging or SUPing.

So I decided to go with a dedicated SUP foiling board, as I really want that SUP foiling experience, without the paddling.

Regarding Winging vs. Wind Foiling at this time most Wingers are riding big foils which are slow, but a ton of fun on any bumps and swells.

As you are on a formula board, I am guessing your wind foiling style is more towards speed vs. surfing.

I agree right now the Wing seems more for surfing, and if you want speed wind or kite foiling is the best option.

However, winging is really new, so we might see some some start to use smaller front foil wings with their wings and that will be a lot faster.

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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2019, 04:50:55 PM »
Revisiting an inquiry into board platforms that can be used for multiple foil sports, since I saw this 2020 offering from Fanatic:

https://www.fanatic.com/sup/composite-boards/foil/sky-sup-foil-ws

6'11" with a step-tail, and it looks like the mast track is wildly close to the front foot in comparison with most ws foil boards. Seems like an ideal shape for sup foil downwinding and wing foiling, but maybe awkward for windsurfing?

The Naish Hover crossover seems to have a more normal mast track to front footstraps distance.

https://www.naishsails.com/product/hover-crossover-

Any experience with either of these boards or speculations about their performance prospects? The characteristics I'm looking for are:

1. Playful smaller alternative to my current windsurf foil platform which is a huge 230x100 cm formula board.
2. Works for sup foil (most interested in downwind sup foil)
3. Works for wing foil in case I get a wing at some point

Right now I think #1 is the most important for me.

PS- I got to try WINGsurfing this weekend with my buddy's 5.0 Duotone wing. We used it on my 10'4 windsup first, then a 6'6 foil sup. Pretty easy on the first board, pretty hard on the second board. Low performance compared to foil windsurfing. When I wasn't taking a turn on buddy's wingading I was sailing circles around him with my 4.7 sail and foil-equipped formula board. Still, there's a lure to wing thing, and I like the idea of using a smaller board for my foil windsurfing that I could also use as a foil sup for downwinding or gentle waves.

I think you are on the right track.  The Sky SUP WS 6.11 is about the best one board for all 3 foil sports.  Of course its not going to be as fast as a dedicated foil WS board but for what you want it will be perfect in regards to #1.  Enjoy and report back on what you get. 
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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2019, 04:41:51 PM »
Roberto Ricci Designs has another option in this category...I'm currently comparing the Naish Hover Crossover vs. Fanatic Sky SUP WS vs. RRD H-Flight Windsurf/SUP...the RRD has multiple foil finbox options, the Naish Crossover and Fanatic Sky SUP WS are limited.

https://equipment.robertoriccidesigns.com/products/hi-flight-y25-2/
« Last Edit: October 06, 2019, 04:44:32 PM by maxsonic »

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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2019, 08:11:27 AM »
river , I'm getting a skysup 6.11 soon , I want to use my infinity 84 on it , would you think this is a good foil for this board ? or should I get a Fanatic flow and sell my wing ? I weight 210 .

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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2020, 04:44:11 PM »
I would say it should work great.  Start there and then see if you need something different.  I suggest most to learn with a large foil to start with and 2000 sq/cm is a great starting point. Have fun and report back to let us know it goes.
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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2020, 07:43:14 AM »
Thanks River , I appreciate your advice  , I currently ride a Wizard 150 and wanted a smaller board with foil tracks to wingfoil as well as windfoiling . I'll be back with my report . I have received the board a few days ago and it is a very good looking design and the construction and finish could not be anybetter . Weight is 21 pounds , I would have liked it to be lighter but it looks like I can't have it all . Infinity 84 is all I ever rode and I'll see very soon how it is with this board but I was curious about how it would compare to the Fanatic 2000 and 2500  with wingfoil since I could probably sell my Wizard easyer with the entire mast and foil kit .

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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2020, 07:36:26 PM »
Roberto Ricci Designs has another option in this category...I'm currently comparing the Naish Hover Crossover vs. Fanatic Sky SUP WS vs. RRD H-Flight Windsurf/SUP...the RRD has multiple foil finbox options, the Naish Crossover and Fanatic Sky SUP WS are limited.

https://equipment.robertoriccidesigns.com/products/hi-flight-y25-2/

Nice looking board and the tuttle in back setup seems to make sense. How much $?

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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2020, 04:12:46 AM »
Roberto Ricci Designs has another option in this category...I'm currently comparing the Naish Hover Crossover vs. Fanatic Sky SUP WS vs. RRD H-Flight Windsurf/SUP...the RRD has multiple foil finbox options, the Naish Crossover and Fanatic Sky SUP WS are limited.

https://equipment.robertoriccidesigns.com/products/hi-flight-y25-2/

Nice looking board and the tuttle in back setup seems to make sense. How much $?

I got a good closeout deal on last year's model from the good folks at Isthmus Sailboards / Paddleboard Specialists: https://isthmussailboards.com

« Last Edit: January 10, 2020, 04:15:00 AM by maxsonic »

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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2020, 01:37:43 PM »
Roberto Ricci Designs has another option in this category...I'm currently comparing the Naish Hover Crossover vs. Fanatic Sky SUP WS vs. RRD H-Flight Windsurf/SUP...the RRD has multiple foil finbox options, the Naish Crossover and Fanatic Sky SUP WS are limited.

https://equipment.robertoriccidesigns.com/products/hi-flight-y25-2/

Nice looking board and the tuttle in back setup seems to make sense. How much $?

I got a good closeout deal on last year's model from the good folks at Isthmus Sailboards / Paddleboard Specialists: https://isthmussailboards.com



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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2020, 02:11:29 PM »
MS, I always like his (RR) kite stuff -master of graphics- but there was spotty distribution.  Then a lot of his hardgoods were being off'd by some big discounter in Minn years back.  I could not afford to give my right arm to ever be as smooth as in that video, but it was enviable.

If that is the same board, it is pretty big. 7'+ x 31" x 150 liters.

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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2020, 06:23:10 PM »
Roberto Ricci Designs has another option in this category...I'm currently comparing the Naish Hover Crossover vs. Fanatic Sky SUP WS vs. RRD H-Flight Windsurf/SUP...the RRD has multiple foil finbox options, the Naish Crossover and Fanatic Sky SUP WS are limited.

https://equipment.robertoriccidesigns.com/products/hi-flight-y25-2/

Nice looking board and the tuttle in back setup seems to make sense. How much $?

I got a good closeout deal on last year's model from the good folks at Isthmus Sailboards / Paddleboard Specialists: https://isthmussailboards.com



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Wow, 20% off and 1279. sounds awfully good! 
 It says the deck is recessed but you can't tell from the pic.  ??
I like the idea of the tuttle at the back for windsurfign and the adjustable track further forward for SUP'ing.
 Seems like a great idea doesn't it??  Hows that work?
Even the 150L is great news as most of the 4 in 1's are 12XL and im nto sure that's floaty enough given our very light winds and my 210lbs.

How do you like it? Quality construction?

VERY interesting!
https://isthmussailboards.com/rrd-hi-flight-ws-sup-foilboard.html

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Re: Fanatic Sky SUP ws edition and similar boards
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2020, 11:15:33 AM »
Thanks River , I appreciate your advice  , I currently ride a Wizard 150 and wanted a smaller board with foil tracks to wingfoil as well as windfoiling . I'll be back with my report . I have received the board a few days ago and it is a very good looking design and the construction and finish could not be anybetter . Weight is 21 pounds , I would have liked it to be lighter but it looks like I can't have it all . Infinity 84 is all I ever rode and I'll see very soon how it is with this board but I was curious about how it would compare to the Fanatic 2000 and 2500  with wingfoil since I could probably sell my Wizard easyer with the entire mast and foil kit .

I am not sure how the Aero Foils would compare to the Infinity 84, but I believe if you wanted to go all Fanatic the best option would be to get the 2000 and then by a 1500 front wing if you need more speed.  I suspect there will be High aspect wings available for the Aero's too eventually. 
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