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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #180 on: June 01, 2020, 03:59:06 AM »
Patrice is not alone in being a tall mast guy. Ken Winner is a tall mast guy too.

We are handicapped by shallow water. I might try to make 82cm my new everyday mast and just hit bottom more often.

Hanna Crew! Did you eat at their Burrito joint when you were here? It’s called Dakine Diego’s.


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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #181 on: June 01, 2020, 06:58:39 AM »


 ...and even the body weight (in kg) minus ~10-15 L rule of thumb isn’t always worth the extra hassle. I notice more and more riders saying that as well.



A floaty board also makes self rescue a very minor inconvenience. I could have been washed downstream a mile yesterday after landing on my already bent leading edge and popping the bladder. Instead I just wrapped up the mess and knee paddled in to where I started in ten minutes.

Many thanks to Admin for lending me his 6M Swing ;D turned out to be a pretty great session.

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #182 on: June 01, 2020, 10:48:51 AM »
I have only ridden the preproduction models and I loved the 5.0 at 75 liters.  I still have trouble getting going about 15% of the time but I am starting to figure it out and what works for me and my sensitive knees.

River - Any more impressions, updates, tips for the Fanatic Sky Wing boards?  I'm particularly interested and torn between the 5'0 and 5'4,  I'm 85kg, would you say it's fairly easy (with practice of course) to knee start the 5'0 at 75 lt?  Thanks for any info and updates!  Rob
Me: 5'10" (178cm), 185lb (84kg)
Wings: Naish WingSurfer S25 5.3m
Board: BluePlanet foil sup 6'6" 116 Lt
Foils: Axis 1000/370/short fuse (1310cm2); Neil Pryde Glide Surf L-1484cm2;
Mast: Axis 90/68cm; NP Flight 82cm,NP Glide 60cm

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #183 on: June 01, 2020, 11:44:35 AM »
The Lemon choosing to go wider, to recover lost volume from being shorter, is something I debated a lot.

When I was winging on a SUP in the early days. The two big drawbacks were rails hitting from width, and nose weight when pumping.

I decided rails kissing the water bothered me the most. Heeling it over upwinding, going rail to rail in waves, tail corners kissing in turns.

So I picked my width, then reduced length as much as possible. Ultimately it landed me with a length that doesn’t nose in and submarine during kook moments.

It’s fun to see where everyone goes with wing board sizing.

Another benefit of a more narrow width is for easy of self recovery when prone paddling.  A 27" vs 24" width can make a big difference in prone paddling comfort.   Prone paddling my DW SUP vs DW Wing board, there is a stark difference in comfort.

I am keen to take out my DW wing board on a small surf day and paddle into waves super early.  I can prone paddle it so well!
I’m a 5’9” 65kg rider:

Boards:
   4'5.5" 33L Armstrong
   4’10” 37L FSM
   5'1" 74L FSM
   5’11” 100L FSM

Foils: Armstrong 1050, 1200, 1550, 2400
Wings: F-One Swing 3.5M and 5M

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #184 on: June 01, 2020, 02:14:46 PM »


 ...and even the body weight (in kg) minus ~10-15 L rule of thumb isn’t always worth the extra hassle. I notice more and more riders saying that as well.



A floaty board also makes self rescue a very minor inconvenience. I could have been washed downstream a mile yesterday after landing on my already bent leading edge and popping the bladder. Instead I just wrapped up the mess and knee paddled in to where I started in ten minutes.

Many thanks to Admin for lending me his 6M Swing ;D turned out to be a pretty great session.

I assume you know that Airtime can fix all that for you. I popped a bladder in one of my Duotome wings. they fixed the tears and installed a new bladder in a day.
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #185 on: June 01, 2020, 04:50:28 PM »
Hanna Crew! Did you eat at their Burrito joint when you were here? It’s called Dakine Diego’s.
Nope, not enough time but it sounds great. Maybe next winter when I return to pick up my next FSM board after I decide on the best length, width and volume ;D

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #186 on: June 02, 2020, 08:38:19 AM »

I assume you know that Airtime can fix all that for you. I popped a bladder in one of my Duotome wings. they fixed the tears and installed a new bladder in a day.

Dropped it off there yesterday, they're communicating through the window and wearing masks at work but open for business.
Could be as much as 240 usd with a new LE bladder :(  that was an expensive jibe!

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #187 on: June 02, 2020, 05:07:04 PM »
Well, better than 900 bucks for a new one. They actually do fix it good as new. They put a new bladder in my 4.0 Duotone and it was a bit thicker. They fixed my scabby patches and it was like new. Of course Admin took one look at it and said "that looks like a hobos handkerchief", but if you don't have to pass his inspection, you're good.
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #188 on: June 04, 2020, 06:24:18 AM »
New wing board from George at Delta Hydrofoil. 5'4" x 29" x 5.25" @ 112ish L. Previous board is a 6'8" @ 150 L. I weigh 250 lbs w/o a thick wetsuit, which is the norm here in New England most of the year. First session was a dream, the second quite a bit more challenging but the performance gains from a wing specific board were immediately noticable.

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #189 on: June 04, 2020, 08:22:16 AM »
Wow, that's a slick-looking scooter. What kind of attachment points are those? Threaded bushings in a PVC block? I've been thinking of through-bolting a plate, though it seems unnecessary since I've mostly stopped hitting stuff. That's roughly the dimensions I plan for my next board, maybe a little wider, but i don't need my wing board to be longer than 6 feet, probably 5'6" X 31"X5" which sounds absurd as I type it, but it will work with a wing.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2020, 08:26:33 AM by PonoBill »
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #190 on: June 04, 2020, 09:36:48 AM »
Pono- Yes, it is a slick little scooter! Thanks. You need to be on this size board now!! Glad you noticed the attachment. We used stainless t nuts set in paulownia stringers. There are a couple more attachments that are glassed over and can be drilled out if need be. We used this on my kitefoil board and I have had no issues so far with that board. The stringer method is actually quite a bit lighter than using a track box. Those things are pretty heavy. The board came out at 13.5 lbs with a 5mm Seadek pad. Also has a PVC deck w/carbon. Time will tell how it stands up. I tend to break EVERYTHING argghh. We also didn't use any bevel. Just a bit in the nose and half way down. The back section is boxy and hard rails. With all the theory on water unsticking from the bottom of the board we decided to go a different route with the rails. We decide to make it like a windsurfing slalom/course board rail for quick water release and acceleration. It's obvious to us that when you pump a wing and foil simutaneously you are not just rising vertically, but forward and vertically so that's why we did that. However, as it's been said here before with any amount of decent power the board will rise. First pic is my kite/tow/surf board with the same stringer attachment point as my wing board:
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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #191 on: June 04, 2020, 10:37:53 AM »
https://youtu.be/Jl4qE8kgXSI

Has this been posted yet?
I'm 5'10", 65kg riding:
Gong Flint 5'6 95L
Gong Catch 5'3 34L
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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #192 on: June 04, 2020, 12:35:44 PM »
https://youtu.be/Jl4qE8kgXSI

Has this been posted yet?

Game over. Checkmate for Gong. Wow.

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #193 on: June 04, 2020, 01:01:53 PM »
Looks like they'll come in a compact little pack,  so they will also be able to ship worldwide at a reasonable cost! Really interested to see more about these. The videos make them look very stiff with little to no flex.  I'm sure there will always be a market for hard boards but man this is the most tempting inflatable I've seen!
Me: 5'10" (178cm), 185lb (84kg)
Wings: Naish WingSurfer S25 5.3m
Board: BluePlanet foil sup 6'6" 116 Lt
Foils: Axis 1000/370/short fuse (1310cm2); Neil Pryde Glide Surf L-1484cm2;
Mast: Axis 90/68cm; NP Flight 82cm,NP Glide 60cm

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #194 on: June 04, 2020, 01:37:31 PM »
Poor old Manta and Indiana inflatables have been out for about a year and get no notice.  Even the F-One blowup seems invisible.  Maybe the 'idea' is appealing but runs into resistance when it comes to pumping your Visacard.  It seems like a no-brainer for a clumsy old Fuc like me...

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