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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #75 on: February 05, 2020, 11:42:46 AM »
Good instructional 'get up' video with interesting offset foot positioning - thanks for posting Dave.   

Jim

Have u noticed Derek Hamaís foot position. Looks like his offset is at rear foot and front foot is over the Center of board.

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #76 on: February 05, 2020, 12:23:50 PM »
great vid obxDave and like seeing people like you showing us how to knee start  8)

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #77 on: February 05, 2020, 10:33:42 PM »
great vid obxDave and like seeing people like you showing us how to knee start  8)

So with my Hero 7 mounted on the back of the Duotone boom you donít really get to see what I think is the harder part of the knee start. By the time the wing comes out of the water and the camera sees anything Iím already up on my knees and flying the wing with forward momentum on a broad reach. From that point standing up and getting onto foil is pretty easy (with enough wind!)

The harder part you donít see:..... you are in the water and have to get wingding and board in the right position relative to the wind, then slide onto the board prone style while holding the wing, and using both hands to pull yourself onto the board. Pretty awkward to do while holding the wing front grab handle in the ďdownwindĒ hand. Once lying on the board the wind will tend to quickly want to point you directly downwind. Next I use my hands holding the outside rails to push up on all fours (hands and knees). If your not balanced just right on a small board when you push up, youíll just tip over into the water backwards, sideways, even forwards, depending on your ďpush-upĒ start position.

Once up on all fours and balanced pointing downwind, I quickly let go of the board with my hands and fly the wing. The ďfreeĒ hand that isnít on the front grab handle has to quickly grab the boom (or rear handle) to sheet the wing in. By sheeting in quickly you gain forward momentum on the board and can quickly turn the board back to a broad reach sailing sideways to the wind on your knees. Once sailing on a reach on your knees it gets way easier and standing up is really the easiest part of the whole routine.

On a smaller board it all gets a bit more challenging. On my new smaller board I balance myself a wee bit farther back on the board so that when Iím knee sailing the front of the board is riding higher in the water.

Note that on small volume boards some riders will straddle sit on the board like sitting on a prone surfboard and transition to a knee position from there. There is no way my bad knees would handle that! So the very unglamorous technique I describe is what works for me. Maybe Iíll try a different camera position on the board to show everything Iím describing.


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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #78 on: February 05, 2020, 10:56:53 PM »
Good instructional 'get up' video with interesting offset foot positioning - thanks for posting Dave.   

Jim

Have u noticed Derek Hamaís foot position. Looks like his offset is at rear foot and front foot is over the Center of board.

Probably a bit deceiving. You canít have one foot on centerline and the other off it unless you want to start turning, or something else (like pull from the wingding) is counterbalancing. I offset to have easy carving control. I donít think about it too much, itís just where my feet want go. :P

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #79 on: February 06, 2020, 04:00:42 AM »
Good description of the struggle to mount to the board obxDave.

Just the other day, Dave (the other Dave) and I were laughing about how pathetic we both feel going through this board mounting process. Neither of us can stand if we sail along on our knees for more than a few seconds. Our joints hurt so bad, we become stiff and canít move. Weíre just better off going for the standup move right away. Sucks getting old.

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #80 on: February 06, 2020, 10:16:31 AM »
Good description of the struggle to mount to the board obxDave.

Just the other day, Dave (the other Dave) and I were laughing about how pathetic we both feel going through this board mounting process. Neither of us can stand if we sail along on our knees for more than a few seconds. Our joints hurt so bad, we become stiff and canít move. Weíre just better off going for the standup move right away. Sucks getting old.

Me too. Also true for foil surfing. Paddling out at Ka'a is a long haul, and it's nice to not have to stand the whole way if it's choppy. Kathy Shipman has both the flexibility and balance to sit on her board and paddle out, and somehow come to her feet from that position without a walker frame, which is what I'd need. I hate seeing her do that--pure envy. If I stay on my knees for any length of time I will almost invariably pitch off the damned thing when I stand. Any time I don't is a victory for PT and stretching.

I do have a tip for the geezer get up though. Once you get your front and back legs in position and are ready to toss yourself into the drink, tighten your core, especially on the back leg side. It makes tottering to my feet at least 50% easier, and when I remember to do it my success rate skyrockets from 10 percent to 20 percent.
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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #81 on: February 06, 2020, 01:16:47 PM »
"my success rate skyrockets from 10 percent to 20 percent" ...well put, Bill.   I sorta feel as if I arrived at a sorority house party at 3 am.  Everybody else is hooked up?!   I thoroughly hope to make that 20% this coming season.  Press on.

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #82 on: February 06, 2020, 02:57:29 PM »

I do have a tip for the geezer get up though.....tighten your core...

You mean you donít just grunt real hard and try not to crap your pants? I know Iím going to someday soon.

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #83 on: February 06, 2020, 08:02:20 PM »
Tighten your core is the opposite of that, and hopefully prevents part 2 or maybe that's number 2.
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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #84 on: February 22, 2020, 07:53:45 AM »
Does anyone have any experience or input on the 2020 Naish Hover 95 for Winging? It's 5'7 x 27 and 95 liters. I'm looking to downsize my current winging board, which is a 7'10 x 30" x 138 liters (Takuma BX Hybrid). I weigh about 165lbs.

https://www.naishsurfing.com/product/hover-sup-foil-carbon-ultra/

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Re: Wing specific boards
« Reply #85 on: February 22, 2020, 08:46:57 AM »
Does anyone have any experience or input on the 2020 Naish Hover 95 for Winging? It's 5'7 x 27 and 95 liters. I'm looking to downsize my current winging board, which is a 7'10 x 30" x 138 liters (Takuma BX Hybrid). I weigh about 165lbs.

https://www.naishsurfing.com/product/hover-sup-foil-carbon-ultra/

It would be a massive improvement. Do it  ;D