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Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« Reply #195 on: December 03, 2019, 04:01:53 PM »
I really like the versatility of the Tesla truck on paper and I don't mind if a vehicle isn't pretty, but I definitely don't like the box structure that is reminiscent of the Chevy Avalanche and Honda Ridge Line, and it makes the box less versatile imo. The traditional shape and box rails of many trucks allow for very quick installation and removal of brackets for racks and canopies, without having to drill holes, or very few holes, also without the need to weld and fabricate custom bits and pieces. I'm all about simplicity.

I love having a canopy and use my truck bed for many different purposes. I could imagine a custom canopy costing upwards of ten thousand or more for the the Tesla. I would need to hire Pono to fabricate me something, or lots of somethings.
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Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« Reply #196 on: December 04, 2019, 01:20:51 AM »
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So strange. Everyone is using a skateboard drivetrain, which makes perfect sense, and then designing trucks as if they had a massive lump of engine/transmission/transfer case and driveshaft up front and needed a huge frontal area to contain the radiator that has to dissipate 1600hp worth of power to keep a 500hp motor cool--but they don't. That's got to be all empty space--room for luggage or something.

I know people don't like change, but geez.

You could argue extra storage space, lovely spot for the charging indicator, etc. but in reality that is the coolest spot to mount the accessories that we don't use.  Just because I have never waded 3 feet deep, winched anything or hauled a few thousand lbs in a 4.5 foot pickup bed doesn't mean I won't need to.  Its about manly, Stanley.  https://manofmany.com/rides/cars/rivian-r1s-off-road-mods-keep-up-manly-appearances



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Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« Reply #197 on: December 04, 2019, 10:28:55 PM »
  If there is a will, there is a way.

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Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« Reply #198 on: December 05, 2019, 03:31:15 AM »
much rather a van than a pickup

unless you actually use the bed, like for dirt or gravel, in ways you couldnt use a van i dont see the design as particularly useful

rack? hassles, and kills fuel efficiency---altho with electric, seems we consider the fuel/energy piece a non-cost---not so sure that'll be the case once all combustion engines switch to electric, which is, likely, inevitable

certainly my dream surf mobile will have a rack, for when necessary--but, for normal use, ill just shove boards/bikes etc in the van and go
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Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« Reply #199 on: December 11, 2019, 05:40:14 AM »

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Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« Reply #200 on: December 11, 2019, 11:15:58 AM »
Remember when Pone said this:
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So here's the thing that may escape casual looks at this truck. It's cheap to build. No frame, no paint, no stamping. It really is Origami. The stamping equipment that makes the pretty curves of normal cars and trucks is eye-wateringly expensive and wears out relatively quickly, requiring rework or replacement to keep making parts that fit. If you tried to stamp stainless of any thickness it would get ridiculously expensive. DeLoreans used thin stainless and minimal stamping and still had huge fit and finish issues from metal hysteresis and die wear. This design is as repeatable as folds in paper. It's made with a score and bend tech from flat panels. If they did it right (and why not) it's a minimum number of parts and a lot fewer fasteners--probably a welded unibody.

well, here you are:



https://insideevs.com/news/387177/perfect-papercraft-diy-tesla-cybertruck/