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Maliko 2020 porn pics and mini review
« on: August 21, 2019, 11:06:35 AM »
After 7 custom boards decided to give a production board a go.
Naish Maliko has been my gold standard for an all around performance board for quite some time but the changes they made for this year made me pull the trigger on a 14'x26"x7.5" @ 273 liter.

Changes to the nose with more aggressive entry and slightly higher volume really translates well in head wind bumps and entry in downwind bumps good improvement over past models. Will be interesting to see how the increase in nose rocker will perform in heavy downwind conditions.

The increase in volume around the entry rocker also improves the ability to pickup smaller bumps in marginal conditions, less laborious than previous models.

Both primary and secondary stability are confidence inspiring, making walking the board and bottom turns more natural. It also improves behavior in side chop, comfortable handling.

The increase in nose volume and thickness does affect side wind performance but with the increase in nose rocker and the generous amount of forward foot placement allowance I was able to mitigate the affect quite easily.

Rails thickness around the standing area is about 5.5" but the deck is recessed. I haven't measured it yet but with my 190# it looks like I'm about 3"-3.5" above the waterline.

Deck pad is thin, grippy and comfortable just how I like it.

Carrying handle has deep recess on both sides with enough grip even for long fingered individuals.

Board feels noticeably  lighter than previous models, I'd say around 23-24# but I'll measure it as soon as I have a chance.

Bottom contours are same as far as I can tell, rounded to a double concave to a V.
all super subtle and not noticeable to the naked eye.

As for criticism:

Construction does not feel rock solid. There is some sort of an extra layer on the rails something that looks like a super thin version of an helicopter tape but that's part of the construction and not removable. It's noticeable because the board finish has matte everywhere outside of the rails.

Board still have noticeable flex but less than past models.

As expected, fin placement remains and that's not a good thing. Based on converted past models the fin box should be anywhere between 16"-21" off the tail instead of the 5.5" it is right now. I'm really not sure what's that all about but most leading brands already caught on but Naish still stuck in the past.

As before the omission of multiple leash plugs, handle mounts, action camera mounts and bungie attachment is a sore spot and should have been addressed, might make the board a lot more appealing for a broader spectrum especially in light of the very popular SIC RS that offers that convenience built-in for sometime now.

As for how she paddles, still early days but this is quite a pleasant board to paddle in any condition, feels faster than what a 26" wide board should feel but I'll post an actual data as soon as I have it.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2019, 11:13:31 AM by burchas »
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Re: Maliko 2020 porn pics and mini review
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2019, 12:05:09 PM »
Thatís a very good review, thanks for posting. Nice board.

How stable is this board compared with last yearís model?

Iím baffled by that fin box placement. Presumably when you are surfing it, your back foot will be ahead of the fin?

When it is unladen, there seems to be a substantial amount of the nose out of the water. How much is, when a person is on board?

The rocker kinda reminds me of the old Harold Iggy Naish designs, with a fairly flat area where you stand and stretching  to the tail, but a marked amount of nose rocker that starts quite abruptly forward of where you stand. It made the boards a bit tricky to surf, but they worked well in the fiats and downwind. It would be interesting to see the board side-on, resting on a couple of trestles deck down, or on a roof rack.

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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2019, 01:04:19 PM »
It seems to me like primary stability is improved but that's tricky to say unless you have them side by side.

When surfing you back foot will be "way ahead" of the fin ::)

I'll have someone take a picture with me on board to really see how it seats in the water. The nose doesn't seems to be sticking out like that but I guess it remains to be seen.
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2019, 01:25:49 PM »
First reaction was yummy!
Better handle, bit lighter, easier to pickup small bumps.
Tempered with doubts on the construction and more side profile.

Now I am really curious about what is the effect of the new tail shape.

To be frank, I do not worry too much with the fin box placement in the 2018 Maliko in our conditions.
I just stuck the GTS forward when it is windier and back when it is less. SO far no problem with directing the board which is very counter-intuitive as most boards have their box a foot or more from the tail....so I do not really understand it.
Granted on the other hand a pivot fin like the Naish one on the 2014 Javelin makes it really easy to move around on the bumps at the price of sometime burying the nose and rounding the board if daydreaming in a strong gust....and having less low end to catch breezers.

« Last Edit: August 21, 2019, 02:10:58 PM by Luc Benac »
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2019, 02:16:53 PM »
looks like a surf/dw kinda of board burchas and probably better on bigger bumps than little ones. I dought its stable than square tail and pivot turns might be tricky for some. Hopefully, better construction than previous years  ::)

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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2019, 03:20:30 PM »
looks like a surf/dw kinda of board burchas and probably better on bigger bumps than little ones. I dought its stable than square tail and pivot turns might be tricky for some. Hopefully, better construction than previous years  ::)

Credit to the 2018 construction. It is very sturdy and gives you confidence in the board. At 28/29 lbs there is a penalty fro this.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2019, 06:10:15 PM »
Now I am really curious about what is the effect of the new tail shape.

To be frank, I do not worry too much with the fin box placement in the 2018 Maliko in our conditions.

First, pivot turn is much smoother on this board. With the fin box better situated, I could pivot turn it easily even when heavy chop and wind hitting from the side. Same idea translate when trying to connect short period bumps without stalling the board to a point where I miss momentum.

The pintail help in that regard and in achieving better top speed but that ties in to the fin placement, which in its current position is stalling the board unless using very shallow fin.

The pintail will give you smoother handling in bigger/rougher conditions

Not even bringing surf into the mix as I need to log in more hours.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2019, 06:15:26 PM »
Same idea translate when trying to connect short period bumps without stalling the board to a point where I miss momentum.
The pintail help in that regard and in achieving better top speed but that ties in to the fin placement, which in its current position is stalling the board unless using very shallow fin.

Sold. That is what I was kind of hoping for.

How shallow have you used a fin on the Maliko? I have not gone under 7" 1/2 with  some sweep.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2019, 06:33:09 PM »
On a different topic. How do you like your Bump fin? Larry has not sold me one yet.....but hope he will soon.
After more use on a different board than your custom, how doe sit feels compared to the GTS and the GT?
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2019, 05:56:59 AM »
How shallow have you used a fin on the Maliko? I have not gone under 7" 1/2 with  some sweep.

Went from 9" down to 6.5" Including the Naish stock fin (MFC Racing 22CM) which is a good fin just not for this board, it really chocked the board in small bumps. It would be much more fitting if they included the MFC Kai DW at 20CM if anything.

From the little feedback I have, I would not use a fin deeper than 7" in flat water if I really want to push speed. The LA Bump is still a work in progress, the next iteration will be foiled with concavities around the bump on the trailing edge, slightly more surface area at the tip and it will lose the flex.

Hoping to modify the board soon. Add my fin boxes, few more plugs and have it painted yellow ;D Then I could really send my buddy at Naish a good feedback on how a perfect board looks like.
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2019, 12:21:34 PM »
How shallow have you used a fin on the Maliko? I have not gone under 7" 1/2 with  some sweep.

Went from 9" down to 6.5" Including the Naish stock fin (MFC Racing 22CM) which is a good fin just not for this board, it really chocked the board in small bumps. It would be much more fitting if they included the MFC Kai DW at 20CM if anything.

From the little feedback I have, I would not use a fin deeper than 7" in flat water if I really want to push speed. The LA Bump is still a work in progress, the next iteration will be foiled with concavities around the bump on the trailing edge, slightly more surface area at the tip and it will lose the flex.

Hoping to modify the board soon. Add my fin boxes, few more plugs and have it painted yellow ;D Then I could really send my buddy at Naish a good feedback on how a perfect board looks like.

Thanks Burchas, I just spoke with Larry and he explained the state of the prototyping and the next step.
It sounds good to be able to keep a low profile at 7", a nice release but keep some hold too.
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2019, 02:44:53 PM »
Is it me or it seems that the fin box in the 2020 might even be an inch or 1/2 inch closer to the end of the tail than in the 2018/2019?
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2019, 02:55:55 PM »
It would be much more fitting if they included the MFC Kai DW at 20CM if anything.

That fin looks like a long curved blade with no base/width.....
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2019, 07:15:42 PM »
It would be much more fitting if they included the MFC Kai DW at 20CM if anything.

That fin looks like a long curved blade with no base/width.....

Yes, but it has yellow in it and that's all you really need for DW performance ;D

Notes on construction:

Board gets marked easily and it shows, construction doesn't feel as sturdy as your 2018.
Hope I won't have to find it the hard way but I'm really pushing this board hard trying it in some violent waters which means some paddle hits when few nasty cross bumps sent me flying.

Good news is the board has really good stability even though it does feel like I'm sitting a little higher on the water than previous models.

Going back to fin box, how far back is yours? It could change from board to board you know...
« Last Edit: August 22, 2019, 07:17:52 PM by burchas »
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2019, 07:21:36 PM »
Yes, but it has yellow in it and that's all you really need for DW performance ;D

:-) :-) :-) Speaking like a true David Jones .... I have three yellow. Like them all. Not sure that I am a lot faster.....

Going back to fin box, how far back is yours? It could change from board to board you know...

Maliko 2018 fin box is 6" from tail
Javelin 2014 fin box is 5" 2/8 from tail
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