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Re: Maliko 2020 porn pics and mini review
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2020, 09:01:05 AM »
Squirrel Cutaway

I have been tempted to try a 8" one on the Maliko but we have not that many true >25 knots days so it is always a fight between 15 and 25 knots days and I think that it could be the same issue than the MFC DW fin, not enough low end to get the speed.
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Re: Maliko 2020 porn pics and mini review
« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2020, 02:00:35 PM »
Squirrel Cutaway

I have been tempted to try a 8" one on the Maliko but we have not that many true >25 knots days so it is always a fight between 15 and 25 knots days and I think that it could be the same issue than the MFC DW fin, not enough low end to get the speed.

The 8” is too small. 9” for light winds, 10” for full-on downwinding.

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« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2020, 02:29:56 PM »
Squirrel Cutaway

I have been tempted to try a 8" one on the Maliko but we have not that many true >25 knots days so it is always a fight between 15 and 25 knots days and I think that it could be the same issue than the MFC DW fin, not enough low end to get the speed.

The 8” is too small. 9” for light winds, 10” for full-on downwinding.

9" in the box of the Maliko so close to the tail, would it not kill the speed and stall the board?
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Re: Maliko 2020 porn pics and mini review
« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2020, 02:47:42 PM »
Squirrel Cutaway

I have been tempted to try a 8" one on the Maliko but we have not that many true >25 knots days so it is always a fight between 15 and 25 knots days and I think that it could be the same issue than the MFC DW fin, not enough low end to get the speed.

The 8” is too small. 9” for light winds, 10” for full-on downwinding.

9" in the box of the Maliko so close to the tail, would it not kill the speed and stall the board?
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« Reply #64 on: May 10, 2020, 03:59:52 PM »
Seems like getting a Squirrel Cutaway from the USA is a mission in itself, so ordered locally a FCS Fat Boy to play with.
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Re: Maliko 2020 porn pics and mini review
« Reply #65 on: May 11, 2020, 05:42:28 AM »
Squirrel Cutaway

I have been tempted to try a 8" one on the Maliko but we have not that many true >25 knots days so it is always a fight between 15 and 25 knots days and I think that it could be the same issue than the MFC DW fin, not enough low end to get the speed.

The 8” is too small. 9” for light winds, 10” for full-on downwinding.

9" in the box of the Maliko so close to the tail, would it not kill the speed and stall the board?

You answered it your self when you described your first try. If you haven't had any issue with tracking, it might suggest you have enough surface to push off of so the next culprit is depth, especially if you had it in the position posted in the picture.

Never had any tracking issues on this board, not even with a 4" fin. on the other hand, when it comes to downbreezing and light winds, haven't had a good experience on anything deeper than my 7.5" Dolphin Junior, regardless of surface area. The Dolphin Junior is 47sqi which is highest I've ever used on this board but it's working well on light winds, especially when there is less trimming and more rail steering which the 2020 Maliko is really good at. It's the deeper fins that I usually found under-preforming in these conditions.

As for the board it self, I found the 2020 Maliko to be a real joy in light conditions, it feels so much more buoyant than its volume might suggest so it's not surprising that its upwind performance are noticeably better than previous versions which in turn, makes upwind/downwind sessions much more agreeable. It's on the upwind part where I found the Dolphin Junior and its hefty surface area much better suited for this board.
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« Reply #66 on: May 11, 2020, 08:54:04 AM »
The MFC fin base is half the box so if I put it full forward, the pin at the back is very close to the edge of the opening. I am always worried to break the box if doing this....
To make matters more complicated, the Maliko box also has a slight wedge on the opening starting back. It makes it easier to get the fin in but it limits the fins that you can put right up front. i.e. SIC 7 or the GTM 6.5 cannot go all the way to the front....
Yes I had this sense on the bumps that the board is "holding" back instead of going. Still going fast but not the same feeling of release if that makes sense.
I wish one could rewind in time and do the exact same run with a different fin :-) just to test

I am curious to see if the 9" Fat Boy dear to Area10 would have the same effect. I need longer week-ends and more paddling days....
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Re: Maliko 2020 porn pics and mini review
« Reply #67 on: May 11, 2020, 09:24:03 AM »
I am curious to see if the 9" Fat Boy dear to Area10 would have the same effect. I need longer week-ends and more paddling days....

I can't see it doing anything to improve on that. When you want better feeling of release as you described, you don't choose a fin with more hold. Maybe if you were to try some downwind nose riding, which would be cool, but the Maliko is not the board for that anyway :)
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« Reply #68 on: May 11, 2020, 09:32:32 AM »
I am curious to see if the 9" Fat Boy dear to Area10 would have the same effect. I need longer week-ends and more paddling days....

I can't see it doing anything to improve on that. When you want better feeling of release as you described, you don't choose a fin with more hold. Maybe if you were to try some downwind nose riding, which would be cool, but the Maliko is not the board for that anyway :)

I remember - not fondly - these first downwind days when I tried to walk the nose of the board...with my face
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Re: Maliko 2020 porn pics and mini review
« Reply #69 on: May 11, 2020, 09:41:50 AM »
The hold of a squirrel cutaway-type fin is when you are *on* the bump, not when you are off it. Remember that the fin also works to collect power from the bump too. So sometimes if you go too small you are missing out on that.

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Re: Maliko 2020 porn pics and mini review
« Reply #70 on: May 11, 2020, 09:43:58 AM »
Btw do you know for sure that FCSII fins fit in a Maliko? I assume the Fat Boy is FCSII click-in? They don’t fit many SUPs.

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Re: Maliko 2020 porn pics and mini review
« Reply #71 on: May 11, 2020, 11:24:54 AM »
Btw do you know for sure that FCSII fins fit in a Maliko? I assume the Fat Boy is FCSII click-in? They don’t fit many SUPs.

I have FCSII dolphin fins that I use on my Nalu and they fit the Maliko box (which look like a Bahne box).

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Re: Maliko 2020 porn pics and mini review
« Reply #72 on: May 11, 2020, 11:30:03 AM »
The hold of a squirrel cutaway-type fin is when you are *on* the bump, not when you are off it. Remember that the fin also works to collect power from the bump too. So sometimes if you go too small you are missing out on that.

I won't pretent that I understand anything about fin. I just try them :-)

This is what the spiel on the squirrel concept says:

Why does this funny fin work you say? This fin works purely by its design. The very narrow base (where the fin meets the board) allows water to release when you want the board to change direction quickly (and I mean lighting quick; can you say 360s). This same low drag at the fin interface to the board is what makes it so fast down the line (ever noticed the dimensional keel ratio of modern sailboats built for speed; small where it meets the hull for speed and quick tacking, large at the bottom for stability and drive). The large ball shape at the bottom of the fin is where the stability, drive and holding power comes from on heavy bottom turns at speed and when you are hanging ten over the nose. The narrow neck with the large ball shape at the end also allows the fin to flex and snap you out of your turns with tremendous acceleration; but with your complete control. Think of a dolphins tail when they whip it and how the snap of that large rear fin thrusts them forward at incredible speed.


This is from Longboard House which seems to be teh only one doing these fins anymore and it is based of course on surfing.

That said I am planning to look funny with my friends by pulling out the small GTM 6.5 and the FatBoy at teh same time  ;D AT the end of teh day I might end-up just putting the Mako 35 or teh GTS 7.5 instead but still will make them scratch their head....
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Re: Maliko 2020 porn pics and mini review
« Reply #73 on: May 11, 2020, 11:48:39 AM »
That said I am planning to look funny with my friends by pulling out the small GTM 6.5 and the FatBoy at teh same time  ;D AT the end of teh day I might end-up just putting the Mako 35 or teh GTS 7.5 instead but still will make them scratch their head....

Don't you have a Spartan in your quiver? Big head, moderate base and leading edge more upright than the dolphins. Put it in and see how you like it. Although better suited for higher volume tails, it should give you some indication before you go and spend more.
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« Reply #74 on: May 11, 2020, 01:38:26 PM »
That said I am planning to look funny with my friends by pulling out the small GTM 6.5 and the FatBoy at teh same time  ;D AT the end of teh day I might end-up just putting the Mako 35 or teh GTS 7.5 instead but still will make them scratch their head....

Don't you have a Spartan in your quiver? Big head, moderate base and leading edge more upright than the dolphins. Put it in and see how you like it. Although better suited for higher volume tails, it should give you some indication before you go and spend more.

The Spartan is way too much fin for the Maliko. If it was a "mini" Spartan now that could work.
I don't mind the Fat Boy because:
1) I can get it locally without shipping (getting a fin from the US is just a killer now with 1.4 exchange, freight and clerance supe rexpensive...)
2) I wanted to try one on my Naish Nalu anyway
3) It says flex....I like flex and fin together
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