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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1005 on: July 06, 2021, 07:01:20 PM »
I had been riding the Axis red standard fuse (765 cm). Yesterday I put on the short fuse (680 cm) for first time and was slightly faster and able to 'stay on' swell better. This is the hoped for outcome.... but I have to be honest I don't understand it. Any explanations for why a shorter fuse would be faster and allow me to 'stay on' swell better?

P.S. I am riding the Axis 1000/500 on 92 cm Project Cedrus mast.

Thinking of going to the 980/400HA on short Black Series ultrashort fuse for riding swell (what Evan from Axis recommended, I'm 90 kg).

dude, the 980 is the next gen 1000. It is an amazing wing.

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« Reply #1006 on: July 07, 2021, 04:28:29 AM »
I had been riding the Axis red standard fuse (765 cm). Yesterday I put on the short fuse (680 cm) for first time and was slightly faster and able to 'stay on' swell better. This is the hoped for outcome.... but I have to be honest I don't understand it. Any explanations for why a shorter fuse would be faster and allow me to 'stay on' swell better?

P.S. I am riding the Axis 1000/500 on 92 cm Project Cedrus mast.

Thinking of going to the 980/400HA on short Black Series ultrashort fuse for riding swell (what Evan from Axis recommended, I'm 90 kg).


dude, the 980 is the next gen 1000. It is an amazing wing.

I'm 90kg as well, I used the 1000/400 combo pretty much exclusively for ages then went to the 460 tail (or rear but I I prefer to call it a tail wing, just to give Adrian the shits 😀)

If you do nothing else I would suggest trying a 460 or 420 tail.

However I now mainly use the 980 and thoroughly recommend it, the speed and glide is insane, so addictive.

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« Reply #1007 on: July 07, 2021, 12:21:51 PM »
I had been riding the Axis red standard fuse (765 cm). Yesterday I put on the short fuse (680 cm) for first time and was slightly faster and able to 'stay on' swell better. This is the hoped for outcome.... but I have to be honest I don't understand it. Any explanations for why a shorter fuse would be faster and allow me to 'stay on' swell better?

P.S. I am riding the Axis 1000/500 on 92 cm Project Cedrus mast.

Thinking of going to the 980/400HA on short Black Series ultrashort fuse for riding swell (what Evan from Axis recommended, I'm 90 kg).


dude, the 980 is the next gen 1000. It is an amazing wing.

I'm 90kg as well, I used the 1000/400 combo pretty much exclusively for ages then went to the 460 tail (or rear but I I prefer to call it a tail wing, just to give Adrian the shits 😀)

If you do nothing else I would suggest trying a 460 or 420 tail.

However I now mainly use the 980 and thoroughly recommend it, the speed and glide is insane, so addictive.

what water surface conditions (flat, swell, waves) do you ride in (now with 980)? ...and what 'tail wing' and fuse are you using?
5'6 Quatro Wingdrifter Pro 105L; Cabrinha Mantis 3.1m, 4m, 5m and 6m; Axis 1000 (1150, 1020); Project Cedrus 91 cm carbon mast (68 cm fuse, 440/5000 rear); 9'6" CRUZ Surf foil SUP (152L); Chinook Thrust 92 Paddle -- fixed 78" length; 'prone' longboards on the rack, kites in the garage.

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1008 on: July 07, 2021, 09:12:35 PM »
I had been riding the Axis red standard fuse (765 cm). Yesterday I put on the short fuse (680 cm) for first time and was slightly faster and able to 'stay on' swell better. This is the hoped for outcome.... but I have to be honest I don't understand it. Any explanations for why a shorter fuse would be faster and allow me to 'stay on' swell better?

P.S. I am riding the Axis 1000/500 on 92 cm Project Cedrus mast.

Thinking of going to the 980/400HA on short Black Series ultrashort fuse for riding swell (what Evan from Axis recommended, I'm 90 kg).


dude, the 980 is the next gen 1000. It is an amazing wing.

I'm 90kg as well, I used the 1000/400 combo pretty much exclusively for ages then went to the 460 tail (or rear but I I prefer to call it a tail wing, just to give Adrian the shits 😀)

If you do nothing else I would suggest trying a 460 or 420 tail.

However I now mainly use the 980 and thoroughly recommend it, the speed and glide is insane, so addictive.

what water surface conditions (flat, swell, waves) do you ride in (now with 980)? ...and what 'tail wing' and fuse are you using?

For winging I'm on the Short. For proper surf waves I'm Ultra-Short. I Oscillate between the 420 and KD Maui. I'm in the process of retrofitting the extra kujira stab I have from my 1440 wingset. Conditions wise, the full gambit-flat, surf, wind chop, whatever is happening really.

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« Reply #1009 on: July 19, 2021, 11:09:46 PM »
Hello everyone. First off, thanks for all the info. It's been cool to read through all the posts and feel the stoke. I kind of wish I had found this forum earlier  :)

Compared to most of the people here, I am a complete newbie. I started wake foiling behind the jet ski last fall, and learned how to wing foil this winter/spring. I come from a board sports background, but this is my first wind sport. We've got a small crew out here in Lincoln City OR, and I've benefited from chasing them. I started on the Slingshot HG platform, but it didn't work for winging (for me). I jumped to an 1150 PNG, short fuse with a 400 stab. I'm 80kg, so the 1150 has been a dream to learn on. Lately, we've been getting 3-4 sessions a week, with a little bit of progression each time. It's been super cool to start something completely new and to have such tangible results. It has been so fun lately. I recently picked up a 460HA stab and have had 3 sessions on it. It's made linking jibe turns much easier. We've done a tow foil session offshore, and I am looking to pick up an 860SP or possibly a 760 for that.

Super stoked to be here, and winging. I've never really felt anything like being on foil at speed. I hope I can add a little to the conversation. Thanks!  ;D
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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1010 on: July 22, 2021, 07:28:24 PM »
First ocean session today at Road's End. I was today years old when I learned that ocean winging is harder than lake winging. :-)

NW 3.5' at 6s or so with a little SW 1.4' at 13s. A bit jumbled, but I was able to get up and get out past the breakers. Super fun, but I couldn't string turns together at all. Out, turn, crash... in, turn, crash.  Was out for an hour or so, but I should have come in sooner. I got worked coming into the beach. So many sharp and inflated things moving chaotically. I think I need more flat water time, but tomorrow is forecast to be better, i.e. flatter with more wind. :-) Hope everyone is scoring! Cheers!
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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1011 on: July 22, 2021, 07:38:21 PM »
Welcome to the group grizzly. The ocean riding will get easier the more you do it. Try going with the flow of the waves and swell. It's all about the foil so just pump more instead of relying on the wing's power.

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1012 on: July 23, 2021, 02:10:12 PM »
Anyone have the new BSC 740 and can compare it to the 700?  I have the 700 and like it, though it sometimes can be a pain to get it up on foil.  Wondering what the 740 does better/worse.

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1013 on: July 23, 2021, 03:07:00 PM »
Anyone have the new BSC 740 and can compare it to the 700?  I have the 700 and like it, though it sometimes can be a pain to get it up on foil.  Wondering what the 740 does better/worse.

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Have you considered the 830? That would keep you in the same family (HPS).

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« Reply #1014 on: July 23, 2021, 04:23:50 PM »
Anyone have the new BSC 740 and can compare it to the 700?  I have the 700 and like it, though it sometimes can be a pain to get it up on foil.  Wondering what the 740 does better/worse.

thanks

Have you considered the 830? That would keep you in the same family (HPS).

I really like the 810, and want a smaller version.... but if the 700 and 740 feel very similar than no need spend the extra money.

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1015 on: July 24, 2021, 06:08:17 PM »
Welcome to the group grizzly. The ocean riding will get easier the more you do it. Try going with the flow of the waves and swell. It's all about the foil so just pump more instead of relying on the wing's power.

Thanks flkiter, I appreciate the tips. Unfortunately, I missed the ocean session yesterday but I caught a quick flat water session today. Hope to get back out this week. Cheers!

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1016 on: August 01, 2021, 02:22:45 PM »
 Lookin for something smaller than 930 HPS probably should have gone 880 but hindsight oh well. 700 might be to small DW mentioned an 830 HPS is that a typo or has that wing not made it on the Axis site yet? Thanks for any info

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« Reply #1017 on: August 01, 2021, 04:27:33 PM »
. DW mentioned an 830 HPS is that a typo or has that wing not made it on the Axis site yet? Thanks for any info

Its on the Axis site. Go to the bottom and look at the chart on screw sizes for different wings. The 830 is listed there. Its coming.

https://axisfoils.com/collections/high-performance-speed

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1018 on: August 01, 2021, 05:11:11 PM »
 Thanks  that might be an interesting wing.

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1019 on: August 01, 2021, 05:57:48 PM »
What should I cut my 460 tail down to?
I have been loving the 380. I am usually on the 890 or the 980v1.
I was thinking 400ish like the HA400. It seems like almost the same shape as the 460?
Maybe 420? Just cuz.

 


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