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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #630 on: December 22, 2020, 11:48:16 AM »
Does the 700 look like an armstrong 1050?

The 810 isn't comparable to the current 910 right?

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« Reply #631 on: December 22, 2020, 12:00:19 PM »
That's right.  I think the categories are really helpful.

There are the two new series (Broad Spectrum Carve and High Performance Speed) and the previous series as well:

910, 1010, 1150 etc. are part of a series called "Pump and Glide".

860,  760, 660, "Performance Surf"

900 and 1000, "Original Carve"

1020, 920 ect., "Original All Around"

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« Reply #632 on: December 23, 2020, 05:51:48 AM »
This right here is why the Axis HPS is a big deal. Itís not about racing, itís about boosting big air. The faster you can ride, the higher you can boost. Pointing high on a foil helps load up for the boost. Foils and wind wings matter.

Nick has the fast upwind Ensis, matched to the HPS, with a special board designed to work specifically with the HPS foils.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJJCfWvrDvk/?igshid=zu27svc71r9

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #633 on: December 23, 2020, 12:38:59 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6PtKddWfNA

Hi, that's me in the video  8)

Finally managed to register so I can share my thoughts.

I tried the 980 with the 390 stab and ultra short fuse.

I totally agree with the hobby horsing pulses happening. It's a bit annoying but I guess you'll get used to it.

I've been advised that the short fuselage would help make it less twitchy but I do enjoy the looseness of the ultra short since it doesn't turn great compared to my 1000.

I'm 76kg and I did find the 980 was a bit too lifty in over 20kn on the wing. So I'm wondering whether to wait for a smaller HPS such as the 880.
I had a blast with the 980 in light winds though.  8) so much speed and GLIDE.

Do you think the HPS needs a 2 wing foil quiver or will the 980 be fine for all conditions?

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #634 on: December 23, 2020, 12:57:43 PM »
sydney.winger

You have to remove the drag and lift coming from the stab. 390 is too draggy. It needs the 420. Without shim for you. Even the 370 is too much drag.

The 980 is too fast for all the current tails, except the 420. We probably need a chopped 420.

Been thinking about reaching out to Kane for a custom tail.

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #635 on: December 23, 2020, 01:35:33 PM »


I tried the 980 with the 390 stab and ultra short fuse.

I totally agree with the hobby horsing pulses happening. It's a bit annoying but I guess you'll get used to it.

I've been advised that the short fuselage would help make it less twitchy but I do enjoy the looseness of the ultra short since it doesn't turn great compared to my 1000.

I'm 76kg and I did find the 980 was a bit too lifty in over 20kn on the wing. So I'm wondering whether to wait for a smaller HPS such as the 880.
I had a blast with the 980 in light winds though.  8) so much speed and GLIDE.

Do you think the HPS needs a 2 wing foil quiver or will the 980 be fine for all conditions?

Hi Sydney,

Welcome to the Zone! 

I am 78 kg, and I am really enjoying the 980.  For me the best combo is with the 390 and no shim.  I was getting that pulsing with the shim in.  Without the shim it smoothed out (and sped up).  I do think this is a quiver wing at our size or smaller.  I am thinking the 930 is going to hit it for our sizes in this HPS line.  It will be interesting to see if we need the shim with that one.  I hope not.  The slick feeling amplifies without the shim.  I am also super stoked for the BSC Wings on the Black Fuselage.  If they can take the versatility of the existing 860 and speed it up to 760 levels...Oh yeah!

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #636 on: December 23, 2020, 02:01:12 PM »
The 420 is 7mm thick with a 60mm chord.

The older tails are chunky monkeys. 10-11mm thick. 80mm chord on the 390.

That spells drag.

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« Reply #637 on: December 23, 2020, 02:30:27 PM »


I tried the 980 with the 390 stab and ultra short fuse.

I totally agree with the hobby horsing pulses happening. It's a bit annoying but I guess you'll get used to it.

I've been advised that the short fuselage would help make it less twitchy but I do enjoy the looseness of the ultra short since it doesn't turn great compared to my 1000.

I'm 76kg and I did find the 980 was a bit too lifty in over 20kn on the wing. So I'm wondering whether to wait for a smaller HPS such as the 880.
I had a blast with the 980 in light winds though.  8) so much speed and GLIDE.

Do you think the HPS needs a 2 wing foil quiver or will the 980 be fine for all conditions?

Hi Sydney,

Welcome to the Zone! 

I am 78 kg, and I am really enjoying the 980.  For me the best combo is with the 390 and no shim.  I was getting that pulsing with the shim in.  Without the shim it smoothed out (and sped up).  I do think this is a quiver wing at our size or smaller.  I am thinking the 930 is going to hit it for our sizes in this HPS line.  It will be interesting to see if we need the shim with that one.  I hope not.  The slick feeling amplifies without the shim.  I am also super stoked for the BSC Wings on the Black Fuselage.  If they can take the versatility of the existing 860 and speed it up to 760 levels...Oh yeah!

Yes I actually used the 980 and 390 with no shim, still lots of pulses and quick pitching/touchdowns on the US fuse...

Do you use the short or ultra short ?

420 tail sounds good whenever it comes out.... the 460 is impossible to find too.

Axis says the smaller sizes of the HPS will come out at spring which is months away, decisions decisions....
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« Reply #638 on: December 23, 2020, 02:36:28 PM »
I also have a 400 stab I never use, wonder if I can cut it and thin that down  ;D

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #639 on: December 23, 2020, 03:25:26 PM »
Iím sure youíd grind to the core foam trying to make a 400 tail 7mm thick.

The 420 is out.

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #640 on: December 23, 2020, 04:54:21 PM »

Yes I actually used the 980 and 390 with no shim, still lots of pulses and quick pitching/touchdowns on the US fuse...

Do you use the short or ultra short ?

420 tail sounds good whenever it comes out.... the 460 is impossible to find too.

Axis says the smaller sizes of the HPS will come out at spring which is months away, decisions decisions....

I have the Short black fuselage.  Ultra short was too twitchy for me on smaller foils.  I have the 420 tail as well, but I think (still early) that I like the 390 a bit better for this wing.  It seemed to ease up the turns a little.  If so the difference there is very subtle.  At these low angles (without the shim) both are super fast. 
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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #641 on: December 23, 2020, 07:34:57 PM »
Allright you've convinced me to go short and try with 390 (no shim).

Unless the Unifoil Hyper is even better once I get to try it  ;D Anything to keep me away from the Armstrong koolaid.

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #642 on: December 24, 2020, 02:21:12 PM »
Jacky today. 81 degrees. 65 degree water.

https://youtu.be/kFu8XZNiDiw

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #643 on: December 25, 2020, 01:02:52 AM »
Still curious if anyone happens to have their 980 in the same room as their dial calipers (assuming the calipers will reach that far back)...

What's the max thickness of the 980 foil section?

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #644 on: December 25, 2020, 04:10:55 AM »
It is 18 mm.  Caliper reaches on this one :)

 


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