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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #495 on: October 27, 2020, 10:52:14 AM »
Rod had a prototype "black" fuselage in the late summer. Slick. Quite a bit thinner than the red fuse, and they use a small screw in the front (looked like maybe 5MM) and 8MM for the rear screws. I suspect that will get them down to at least as thin a foil profile as any plug-type fuse.
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« Reply #496 on: October 31, 2020, 08:48:47 AM »
Had a few sessions on the new 420 with my 1150 and was impressed with its improved handling compared to the 460,must say not as twitchy as the 460 and tad bit faster enjoyed the combo on a couple of flattish lighter days.Iím not really a winger looking for speed as been there done that kitefoiling,but must admit that combo gets going at a pretty good clip which is fun on flatter days increasing upwind ability angles,and turning seems pretty solid for a HA combo.Was wondering if any you guys tried it yet and thoughts as well? Iím thinking of selling my 460 if anyone interested going to use my 1150 with the 420 and 440 for while now
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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #497 on: November 02, 2020, 08:14:00 AM »
A number of new vids from the Foiling NY guy. A couple of the newer Go Foil wings (P180, NL190) were tested and more interesting (to me at least), a comparison of the Axis 1150 / 460 tail with both + and - shims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CUZxFVJ1JI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIpY3VUlWro&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rct7ME6z-Us

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #498 on: November 02, 2020, 08:29:24 AM »
A number of new vids from the Foiling NY guy. A couple of the newer Go Foil wings (P180, NL190) were tested and more interesting (to me at least), a comparison of the Axis 1150 / 460 tail with both + and - shims.

That makes a lot of sense for that large front wing.  He said that it felt like his foot balance became better when he reduced the downward angle of the rear wing by 1 degree.  It would be interesting to see him test the same on his smaller fronts and see if and where the stock angle or 1 degree further down was a benefit.
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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #499 on: November 12, 2020, 10:34:08 AM »
Hi fellas,

Thinking of making a complete swap from Moses to Axis. Iíve got the 790 and 720 with 483/450 stabs. Iím 77 kg and ride pretty choppy water or crappy on shore wind blown waves. I want to go faster, get good glide and cut through turbulence. I was looking at the W1000/800 combo but would need another fuse, so might make the swap to the more modular Axis.

So if u were me, what two wings would u get? And what two stabs to maximise the lower and upper wind range of each would u get. Iíll get the 85cm 19mm alu mast.

I use Ensis wings 6/4.5/3.5 and I ride 15-40 mph winds on a 85 and 115L boards.

Cheers

Mike

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« Reply #500 on: November 12, 2020, 02:05:40 PM »
Hi fellas,

Thinking of making a complete swap from Moses to Axis. Iíve got the 790 and 720 with 483/450 stabs. Iím 77 kg and ride pretty choppy water or crappy on shore wind blown waves. I want to go faster, get good glide and cut through turbulence. I was looking at the W1000/800 combo but would need another fuse, so might make the swap to the more modular Axis.

So if u were me, what two wings would u get? And what two stabs to maximise the lower and upper wind range of each would u get. Iíll get the 85cm 19mm alu mast.

I use Ensis wings 6/4.5/3.5 and I ride 15-40 mph winds on a 85 and 115L boards.

Cheers

Mike

Here's an easy and relatively inexpensive way to attach the Moses W1000 to your surf fuse.

https://www.mackiteboarding.com/moses-fuselage-to-wing-adapter-plate/







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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #501 on: November 12, 2020, 07:55:20 PM »
I would recommend the 1150 and 1010. These wings are ridiculous! I like the 460 stab with both but also have fun on the 390GAP. This one is more turny but has a noticeable speed limit. I am learning every session how to turn the 460 with the 1150 and 1010. Ultra short fuse is nice. My next purchase is the 105 mast. I am currently on the 83 mast but I see how a deeper foil will turn better with these big wide wings. I can flag out and pump as far as I want on the 1150. Jibes and carving 360's are effortless with this amount of glide.

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #502 on: November 13, 2020, 02:23:34 AM »
I would go with the 760 and 860.  760 is Axis's quickest wing and is super fun.  The 860 is its mellow big brother.  Really easy going.  Both of these wings stay planted in wild wind and water. 

Hard not to wait and see what comes next though on the new fuselage. 

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #503 on: November 13, 2020, 05:47:41 AM »
thanks guys.

I did contact Mackiteboarding 2x before about that adapter but they never replied.

Admin, I think we are about same weight. The 860/760 combo sounds good. You are using the 390 GAP I think.

Whats the low end for you on the 860? and if you were to get another stab to go with the 860/760 and 390 combo?

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #504 on: November 13, 2020, 06:24:18 AM »
Hi Mike,

You can go really low on the 860 (10 MPH) with a 5 and lower with a 6.  I haven't been using my 5 or 6 at all because it almost always hits 14 MPH here and at 14 both the 760 and 860 work really well with a 4.2 Swing.  Pump hard for a few seconds and it happens.  Once you are up you are good.  The wind range is very similar on both the 760 and the 860 with the 860 having a teeny low end advantage.  The 760 is quite a bit faster but it is a bit more sensitive rail to rail.  It will let you know if your feet aren't centered enough.  You don't have to be careful with the 860 at all.  Both glide really well through sloppy jibes but the 860 has a little advantage there as well.

We have only been using the 390 tails.  We had all of the other earlier tails and none were close to the 390.  I will pick up the new one as well just to see but I am really happy with the 390's. 

Chan and I switch off between the two setups (860, Short Fuselage, 390 and 760, Standard Fuselage, 390).  We have narrowed down to just those two setups now so it is pretty easy. 

I love gear but honestly I am really satisfied with my whole kit right now. 

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« Reply #505 on: November 13, 2020, 06:42:33 AM »
Any time I can get up on it, the 860 is my goto foil, generally with the 390. At my weight (215) it takes some serious speed to get up but once I'm up it's magic. I'm still stuck with the other wings in the quiver until I lose a few more pounds or get a little better at getting up in sub-optimal conditions.

The 1150 is amazing for ghosting along on next to nothing for wind or swell though I tried it surfing at SanO and ran back in for the 1000. Probably would have been better off with the 900 or the 860. I think if there were a 960 my quiver would collapse to 860, 960, 1150 and the 390 and 440 tails. I like the 440 with a 2 degree negative shim. The 390 is fine as it is though a 1 degree negative calms down the sudden pop-ups.
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« Reply #506 on: November 14, 2020, 04:51:14 PM »
Hey Flkiter how does the 1300 compare to the 1150? Give us some details and pics please the time has come!
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« Reply #507 on: November 14, 2020, 06:09:02 PM »
Hey Flkiter how does the 1300 compare to the 1150? Give us some details and pics please the time has come!

I haven't been given the ok yet to spill the details on what's in the works. I'll be in Cocoa Beach soon tho to work on testing. Big North East winds are coming.

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« Reply #508 on: November 15, 2020, 08:40:45 AM »
Hi fellas,

Thinking of making a complete swap from Moses to Axis. Iíve got the 790 and 720 with 483/450 stabs. Iím 77 kg and ride pretty choppy water or crappy on shore wind blown waves. I want to go faster, get good glide and cut through turbulence. I was looking at the W1000/800 combo but would need another fuse, so might make the swap to the more modular Axis.

So if u were me, what two wings would u get? And what two stabs to maximise the lower and upper wind range of each would u get. Iíll get the 85cm 19mm alu mast.

I use Ensis wings 6/4.5/3.5 and I ride 15-40 mph winds on a 85 and 115L boards.

Cheers

Mike
You might consider the 920 as a excellent all around wing my favorite rock solid in the surf and rough conditions much better than a HA in the kind of conditions your talking,like my 1150/420 in smoother conditions but in decent waves and rough water the 920/440 is a real nice set up and with your weight you can ride in lighter winds too! Iím like Bill dreaming they come out with a 960 for us bigger guys that would be optimum.I personally have not tried the 860 as holding hope a 960 will be coming,yeah I know wishful thinking,but highly recommend the 920 in the conditions you describe I ride with 19mm 82 mast short fuse with 440 tail canít beat it in choppy/turbulent windy decent swell just a really trustworthy set up that responds super well to rider input

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« Reply #509 on: November 15, 2020, 01:16:40 PM »
Thanks again guys for all the great input. Paddlur those condiitions ur in look similar to mine, one of my spots gets even more messy.

So overall Iíve been advised 920/910/860 for my bigger wing and the 760 for the smaller one and 440/460/390 stab combinations.

Just need to make my mind up and make a decision.🤣

Cheers

Mike

 


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