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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1125 on: October 31, 2021, 06:56:27 PM »
Hey Califoilia, have you managed to clock any time on the 880 yet? I've got an 890 otw to go w my 880( and 1050, 860, +,+...) and wondering what your thoughts may be. I'm kinda hoping the 890 is a bit more forgiving w the pump.

So by extension, a bigger tail not shimmed would pump better than a small tail shimmed.
Yes, what I found also in testing them (surfing btw). Love the 400P with the 890 and crazy short on the 75cm aluminum mast, so thought I'd try the 375P, and while I like it being a little faster and looser, I didn't like the feel of less tail/lift in the pump part. So threw on a -1 shim, and that was just a fly in the ointment. Didn't really do anything better except for maybe a marginal increase when pumping, but not enough for me to want to leave it on there, and went back to the 400P with the 890.

That said, the 375P with the 910b (rest being the same) is awesome...loosens it ups nicely in turns w/o breaking tail sliding as I'd sometimes get with the 400HA, and is still plenty of tail to allow for it to continue to pump great. Super combo!

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1126 on: November 01, 2021, 10:10:47 AM »
Hey Califoilia, have you managed to clock any time on the 880 yet? I've got an 890 otw to go w my 880( and 1050, 860, +,+...) and wondering what your thoughts may be. I'm kinda hoping the 890 is a bit more forgiving w the pump.
Really liked the HPS wings in the surf when they first came out for the speed, and maneuverability of them...that was until Axis released their BCS, and now their black fused versions in the PNG series.

The 890 (and 910b) is a tad slower compared to the 880, but that's actually better in the surf, as you don't outrun the wave as easily, so turning becomes snappier with it's better lower end lift do to its less AS. The lower AS also helps get it out of the hole when grabbing a wave a tad quicker, and pumping seems to be about the same cadence wise, as the 890 lifts slightly easier, but the 880 travels a slight bit further with each pump...so that's sort of a wash. But yes, the 890 with the 400P tail is more forgiving pumping than the 880 that I ride with the 400HA tail.

In the surf, I think you're really going to find your 890 to be the "go to" wing in your quiver...now you just gotta get the right tail for it.  ;) ;D
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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1127 on: November 01, 2021, 02:43:58 PM »
I was flicking through the Axis catalog and noticed that they offer a 16mm thick mast. Has anyone used one and what can you tell me about it?

I've been having issues with mast ventilation on the 19mm version ("Ejected through the front door" thread) and thinking the thinner version might help as I've been using a thinner mast (different brand) with no ventilation problems for months before getting the ART999 and 19mm mast a couple weeks ago.

Realise I'll be giving up some stiffness, but I'm only 65kg so have some room to spare on the stiffness front...
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Gong Hipe v2 4'11 70L
Axis ART 899, 999
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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1128 on: November 01, 2021, 03:55:18 PM »
I rode the 16mm when i had my axis setup. I liked it and never noticed any ventilation issues.

Listen to the progression project with Adrian from axis if you want to hear the percentages of how stiff one is from the other.

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1129 on: November 01, 2021, 07:58:43 PM »
quote author=Hdip link=topic=35177.msg432815#msg432815 date=1635807318]
I rode the 16mm when i had my axis setup. I liked it and never noticed any ventilation issues.

Listen to the progression project with Adrian from axis if you want to hear the percentages of how stiff one is from the other.
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Can you give us the coles notes 19mm vs 16mm?

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Re: Axis Foils
« Reply #1130 on: December 02, 2021, 06:19:48 PM »
Haven't posted in a bit... I've been exploring the wonders of the 890. I got the 890 just before (like the week before) the ART999 came out, and I have been loving it. I've still got my 1150, and I have no interest in getting rid of it. It's just too good for light winds. The 890 has been my go-to for the last couple of months for winging and I've been able to prone surf it poorly a couple of times. I am curious about the ART899 for winging though. I told myself I wasn't going to buy another foil this year...

On a different note, Axis released a much smaller HPS wing when the ART999 came out. I got the HPS650 for towing, and it blew my mind. Once we dialed it in on the lake, I rode the thing ~35mph and it was so stable. We took it out in 8' surf a couple of weeks ago and had a bunch of fun. Plenty of speed, stable, turns on rails, and a ton of glide for such a small wing. Eventually, we plan to tow big rollers that come through... just have to get the right conditions. I'm running a 90cm red mast, ultrashort fuse, and a 380HA rear tail.
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