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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2019, 05:45:53 PM »

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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2019, 03:43:10 AM »
Here is SPG's chart.  Mine is simpler.  Over 30 I am looking for another spot.  Over 20 I am using the 4.  12 to 20 I am using the 5.  Under 12 I'm lighting up.

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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2019, 04:42:42 AM »
Here is another one, specifically for using a SUP without foil. From Gong site
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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2019, 06:56:40 AM »
What does "nds" refer to?
ONE SUP Edge Pro 12' 6" x 22"
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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2019, 07:36:09 AM »
What does "nds" refer to?

Noeuds ,knots

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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2019, 09:44:39 AM »
You are going to need some large noeuds to wingfoil a SUP in 60 knots.

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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2019, 03:12:40 AM »
Finally some wind... Drove down to BIB for some 20 mph wind. Setup the Maliko with the 4.2, went out and the wind went to 20 - 30... Couldn't keep the foil down so I came in to change to the iwa. Wind increased to 25 - 35...beer thirty time. Hoping for lighter winds this morning. I wonder if the new tails can be adjusted for less lift.
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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2019, 10:29:13 AM »
Reminds me of the early days of windsurfing, when I had one board and two tri-radial sails--One for every wind condition except nuking, and a nuker. Probably the only time being big and fat helped in a sport because it gave me more range. The wind would pick up 10mph and everyone would bail to the beach to rig smaller. I just hung my fat ass out a little further and carried on.
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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2019, 12:54:07 AM »
This is the wind range from F-One 

Not as detailed as the signature chart but seems realistic.

I only have one wing, a Duotone 5m , I need 12 knots to get on the foil and at 25 knots it gets dangerous  , the F-one 3,5 m would be a nice second wing I wouldn't mind getting rid of the boom in rough conditions...

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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2019, 10:48:51 AM »
For the first time I have seen the need for a 2M.
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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2019, 07:36:29 AM »
In rough conditions at the hatchery I was using my 2m and was able to extend the boom out to flatten the wing.  The boom allows me to adjust the wing tension.  I need it flatter going upwind also, so with a new adjuster I have, I can go upwind with a flatter wing and then when I want to go downwind, I can “bag out” the wing to be full, kinda like a spinnaker and get more power while I’m flying. Also in high winds the boom has less flex than a strut and you don’t have to think where to place your hand.  You can schooch it left and right as needed without un-gripping.  Windy Wednesday if I had to let go at all it was crazy wild so was moving my hands without releasing them
 
Then when I had enough survival 2m, I let Ken use it and be used it with the boom set mid range and in the end it got so windy he extended the boom
All the way out too.

There is a reason windsurfers use booms and it is very safe and you have more control and adjustments.  They won’t ding your board that was a ridiculous thing for someone to say who has been using booms his whole life :) the reason other brands don’t have them is Ken has been riding his wings for a lot longer than other brands and had time to design them.  Handles are quick and simple and cheap to manufacture.  No special molded parts either.
 
« Last Edit: August 11, 2019, 07:43:31 AM by Julie_Scheyer »
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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2019, 08:14:48 AM »
Does the boom feel floppy when you loosen the adjustable outhaul?

Oops, never mind, already thought of the solution to that. I’ll add one to my boom.
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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2019, 08:19:27 AM »
The boom does not feel floppy, the boom is rigid.  The wing has less tension on purpose, so is that what you mean to feel floppy?  Like a boat spinnaker when it has wind in it, then it feel stable.  This is maybe more advanced techniques to try when you have good wing control and want to dial in more precise control.
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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2019, 08:43:55 AM »
Dwight you don’t need to add anything you can adjust the boom a couple clicks.  I can do it in the water sitting down.  The on the fly is nice but not necessary
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Re: Wing Size???
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2019, 02:46:39 PM »
it's interesting that Duotone's the only brand to boom and the rest without. I guess will see how the market demands to boom or not to boom? Can Duotone do a carbon boom in the future and I'm guessing it's coming soon?