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flkiter

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The future of board design?
« on: June 14, 2019, 08:53:09 AM »
After seeing the one minute pump challenges with the new wing designs coming out, I'm wondering is anyone working on a sup that can easily pop up onto foil? I think the future will be the ability to get on foil before even having the wave or swell.

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Re: The future of board design?
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2019, 10:14:34 AM »
Calling it here: Tuttle boxes will fall out of favor because the next generation of foil SUPs will be so thick no one can find bolts that will work.

Takuma has a 112L 5'9 foil SUP in production, rumor is that Blue Planet's next run of foil boards will have boards that length with even more volume than that. Custom Jimmy Lewis and Dave Kalama boards are probably already there. I'm not sure it will ever be 'easy'. The harder part I think will be that the kind of foil that you can fly from a standstill isn't going to be the kind you want to ride waves of any size on.

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Re: The future of board design?
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2019, 07:46:48 PM »
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Tuttle boxes will fall out of favor because the next generation of foil SUPs will be so thick no one can find bolts that will work.

So do you think the foil mounts will be going to tracks systems or inserts?
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Re: The future of board design?
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2019, 09:22:11 PM »
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Tuttle boxes will fall out of favor because the next generation of foil SUPs will be so thick no one can find bolts that will work.

So do you think the foil mounts will be going to tracks systems or inserts?

As long as we're talking about getting the board out of the water, it should be noted that the tuttle option will be the least overall drag.  Every little bit matters when you're trying to get out of the water.  I can tell the difference getting out of the water when I get a strand of sea-grass stuck in that joint and that's gotta be less drag than a dual track mount.

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Re: The future of board design?
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2019, 12:11:43 PM »
as exiled said, a foil with enough lift to flat water start is next to useless in anything but the smallest surf.

board shape does make a huge difference though, from 18 paddle strokes to get airborne on a converted nsp 7' 9" surf sup with track mounts to as little as 6 strokes from stationary to airborne on my own design 5'10"x 27 foil sup. i like the idea of large concaves in the rails to reduce wetted surface area as quickly as possible when the board lifts and to keep the paddle blade surrounded by water when pulling hard close to the board, combined with a step tail like kalama boards it seems to work extremely well

in reality i dont think it makes all that much difference in the sense that if you are a light, strong paddler with the right foil you will be able to make almost any board fly, on the other hand if you are not in your physical prime and you do not possess the power to weight ratio and technique necessary to attain flight then you could have the best board with the biggest foil and still never even get close to a bunny hop

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Re: The future of board design?
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2019, 08:00:15 PM »
I wouldn't mind giving that board a try, looks like a good design!