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M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« on: April 22, 2019, 03:47:14 PM »
First downwind run for the season and first run with my new downwind prototype.
Quartering tail wind, we had to surf to the right for 11 miles. Had a blast

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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2019, 04:28:33 PM »
Yes. Nothing beats a low volume board. But,but....it should have been orange and grey :-)
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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2019, 04:40:20 PM »
Nice downwind run. The wind was really ripping. Angry looking waves too. BTW, that is an excellent looking downwind board. Love the broadside shot of it.

Thank for sharing the video.
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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2019, 04:41:17 PM »
Very nice indeed. Low volume, plenty of rocker and a big blow = downwind heaven.

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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2019, 09:02:40 PM »
nice board and dw run burchas  ;)

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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2019, 10:24:23 PM »
Wait, what? The season? I didn't know there was a season. No one tells me anything.
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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2019, 05:10:53 AM »
what a cool run, burchas!

and a gorgeous board........

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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2019, 08:48:46 AM »
Looks fast and surfy! Yuval, what are those two black dots on the side? Graphics or?
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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2019, 02:15:42 PM »
Thanks Guys!

Bill, there are no seasons for seasoned chaps like your self.

Greg, those dots are threads for mounting grab handles.

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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2019, 02:44:14 PM »
Side grab handles. Yes. That is a nice touch that could benefit so much the Naish Maliko....
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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2019, 03:35:10 PM »
Side grab handles. Yes. That is a nice touch that could benefit so much the Naish Maliko....

Easy enough to install. The hardware is $20 including the handles. You could probably make
it your home project and do it your self now that you modified your paddle ;)
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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2019, 03:44:03 PM »
Side grab handles. Yes. That is a nice touch that could benefit so much the Naish Maliko....

Easy enough to install. The hardware is $20 including the handles. You could probably make
it your home project and do it your self now that you modified your paddle ;)

I applaud your confidence in my skills but likely not :-) If it would not take two months to get any sup repaired here, I would have it done. the handle on the Maliko simply sucks and is not really safe fro down-winding use.
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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2019, 04:29:01 PM »
Side grab handles. Yes. That is a nice touch that could benefit so much the Naish Maliko....

Easy enough to install. The hardware is $20 including the handles. You could probably make
it your home project and do it your self now that you modified your paddle ;)

I applaud your confidence in my skills but likely not :-) If it would not take two months to get any sup repaired here, I would have it done. the handle on the Maliko simply sucks and is not really safe fro down-winding use.

Yes. Nothing beats the SIC style handle which I also included with this board along with deck loops for paddle portage. All very handy in these conditions.
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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2019, 07:49:40 PM »
Was this your design? Very curious about how the thin rails worked, say in comparison to the polka dot F16 that was on that trip with the traditional SIC thick rails. I would think that the thin rails would be much less stable, but much easier to surf. I am unclear about what the effect would be on speed and glides. Anxious to hear about any comparisons.
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Re: M15 & the Easter Bumps - First downwind of the season
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2019, 10:57:12 PM »
Was this your design? Very curious about how the thin rails worked, say in comparison to the polka dot F16 that was on that trip with the traditional SIC thick rails. I would think that the thin rails would be much less stable, but much easier to surf. I am unclear about what the effect would be on speed and glides. Anxious to hear about any comparisons.
My custom UL downwind boards are also very thin, with lots of rocker. I think they are only about 4.5Ē thick.

They are actually MORE stable for their width than the thick SIC downwind boards I have. Lowering your standing position makes a big difference, as does not having big fat rails which can catch every bit of chop and wind.

One way to look at this is that everything *in* the water keeps you stable, but everything *out* of the water is excess that will make it feel more like you are standing on a log getting blown and pushed around.

The lower volume boards are however slower than thicker board when they are not planing. You will get more water splashing into the deck around your feet, and the thin rail shape will mean that the rails are biting the water more. This makes them slow in flat water. But the bite of the rails also means that the board is much easier to control, more predictable in its handling, and surfs MUCH better. Plus, steering on a wave does not require a rudder. This combination of handling characteristics makes the low volume downwind board to be much more FUN to ride, especially in high winds (over 25 knots; preferably over 30).

So, if you only care about average speed, and you are willing to put up with a less stable, worse-handling board in order to get that extra 0.5% of speed, then get a thick-railed downwind board. But if you want to surf your board on the bumps rather than pilot the board, and your aim is fun, stability, and ease of handling, then get a low volume board. Plus, for many of us who arenít pros, the extra handling of the low volume board will actually translate to faster speeds in practice: you canít be fast downwind if you are teetering all over the place.