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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2019, 06:47:33 PM »
They are more integrated into the Aussie sup surf scene than the statesí . So on SeaBreeze youíll find more references to them .... and favorable at that.
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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2019, 04:36:39 AM »
I notice how pronounced the dihedral hull at the bow. Correct me if I'm wrong but I was always under impression that's an attribute of flat water/kind of beginners type of board?


They say it's to help alleviate bow slap in chop which does happen with bigger boards. It's extremely subtle and comes out of the water the moment the board starts to plane. You can see that in the video. I like it.

I don't think Blane would incorporate anything into the design that would interfere with its surfing performance.

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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2019, 07:25:58 AM »
Hypothetic question. For 195/200 lbs beginner - would you suggest 11 or 11'6" ?   
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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2019, 07:55:29 AM »
I notice how pronounced the dihedral hull at the bow. Correct me if I'm wrong but I was always under impression that's an attribute of flat water/kind of beginners type of board?


They say it's to help alleviate bow slap in chop which does happen with bigger boards. It's extremely subtle and comes out of the water the moment the board starts to plane. You can see that in the video. I like it.

I don't think Blane would incorporate anything into the design that would interfere with its surfing performance.
Yeah, Iíve got a Gong 12-6 Perv, which is a crossover surf-tour board, and it has this feature too. It works well when paddling, and doesnít interfere with surf performance because the midpoint of the first foot or so of the nose isnít in the water when surfing.

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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2019, 01:50:53 PM »
Hypothetic question. For 195/200 lbs beginner - would you suggest 11 or 11'6" ?

The recommended rider weight for the 11' is 198lb or less for beginner/intermediate so the 11 footer would be perfect for someone 200 lbs. The width of 32.5 is also perfect for a beginner.

Not that 11'6 would be bad. It depends on how much stability the person needs, but it probably wouldn't surf as nicely as the 11'.

I was contemplating getting the 10 footer. Even though the recommended rider weight is 154lb or less, 152 liters would still be plenty of volume for my 175 lbs.

The 10'6 has a bit more volume than I need but that and the longer length should provide a little more glide.

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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2019, 06:22:07 PM »

Not that 11'6 would be bad. It depends on how much stability the person needs, but it probably wouldn't surf as nicely as the 11'.


The 10'6 has a bit more volume than I need but that and the longer length should provide a little more glide.

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I'm a bit confused
"11'6 wouldn't surf as nicely as the 11'" vs " the longer length should provide a little more glide"
 if the longer board (10'6) would provide more glide (than 10) then why 11'6 wouldn't surf as nicely as 11?

p.s. I'm not nit picking, but trying to figure it out
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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2019, 11:42:05 PM »

Not that 11'6 would be bad. It depends on how much stability the person needs, but it probably wouldn't surf as nicely as the 11'.


The 10'6 has a bit more volume than I need but that and the longer length should provide a little more glide.

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I'm a bit confused
"11'6 wouldn't surf as nicely as the 11'" vs " the longer length should provide a little more glide"
 if the longer board (10'6) would provide more glide (than 10) then why 11'6 wouldn't surf as nicely as 11?

p.s. I'm not nit picking, but trying to figure it out


If I weighed 190, the 10'6 would be perfect for me. If I weighed 200, the 11' would be perfect.

I weigh 175 which puts me between sizes. I can go either way. The 10 would surf better, but the 10'6 would provide more glide.

Volume helps glide, but too much volume can hinder surfing. I'm giving up some surfing ability with the 10'6 in order to get into waves early. What concerns me is that it might be too much volume in dicey bigger surf.

One thing that turns me off about the 11'6 is the 33" width. It seems unnecessarily wide which I think might hinder both glide and surfing. I'm not sure what the thinking was behind going wider on the longer boards since being longer should make them more stable to begin with.


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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2019, 11:50:20 PM »
The longer boards will be made for heavier people, which is why they are wider. I suspect that Tom has been hurt by criticisms previously that his board designs were tippy, so heís compensating.

Itís unusual to get a performance-oriented design in a 33Ē width. So he may have found a niche.

But 33Ē is too wide for me, for sure. Iíd have bought the 11-6 (if I actually could: I donít think that in reality they are available in the UK) except for that width. 31-32 would be fine. But Iím not sure that 33Ē adds much stability over 32 for the vast majority of people, but it certainly makes paddling distances less pleasant.

But maybe if I weighed 250lbs Iíd feel differently.

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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2019, 04:00:58 AM »
My mind has been struggling over whether I ordered the right one. I now think that I should have gone with the 10'. It's not the end of the world but I think I would be happier with the lower volume board.

The website says that once you make the order, there is no changing it. I guess that's one of the drawbacks of dealing with big companies.

We'll see how it goes with the 10'6. Maybe it will be alright.
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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2019, 04:54:53 AM »
I think the get in early, catch anything characteristic comes from the added length of the board.
The bit of extra volume on more powerful waves just needs your back foot sufficiently on the tail for turning.

And this length really gives you a nice full quiver compared to your other boardís lengths. Youíll be ready for anything.

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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2019, 05:14:51 AM »
Yes, that's what Blane Chambers said in one of his videos. The way to turn big boards is you have to get your back foot all the way back over the fin.   8)
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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2019, 05:59:49 AM »
@ Badger

Do you have an ETA (estimated time of arrival) for when your Outer Reef will arrive at your place (home or shipping terminal)?
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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2019, 07:12:31 AM »
My account says "Order processed, waiting for shipping".

Once it's shipped, they will give me a tracking number and an ETA.

If it's coming from the warehouse in Atlanta, GA it might be here by the weekend.

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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2019, 07:53:14 AM »
Sweet, need a ride report ,hope you get a few
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Re: Tom Carroll Outer Reef 10'6
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2019, 09:04:14 AM »
Yes, that's what Blane Chambers said in one of his videos. The way to turn big boards is you have to get your back foot all the way back over the fin.   8)

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By the time I upgraded to smaller boards, the Big Easy was doing most everything even tube riding. 

 


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