A "Guest" Sup: 3 Main Choices

[supnsurf]

Outer Reef is a good price too !

[Night Wing]

The 11-6 JP Australia longboard has thinner rails than you’d think. It doesn’t feel corky at all, and is super-stable even in chop. The Litres of a board is not a very good guide to how a board feels.

The reason you're saying the JP 11'6" @ 209 liters is super stable (for you), is probably because you don't weigh 146 lbs like I do. Just a guess on my part since you didn't state your weight. That is a "detail" you left out.

I'll give you an example. Keep in mind that the 2009 year model Starboard Blend I originally demoed on Lake Conroe was: 11'2" x 30" x 4.3" @ 168 liters. This board did not feel corky to me at my weight.

I have demoed one other board, a Starboard Blend Wide Point and it's specs were: 11'2" x 32" x 4.6" @ 198 liters. This board did feel corky to me even though it is 32" wide and with it's width, it should not have felt corky to me.

Nothing scientific, but my "gut feeling" tells me this board felt corky to me was because the 198 liters of volume is just too much volume for my 146 lb physical weight. For me, it felt like "trying to stand and balance on a round ball".

So "feel" (corkiness and/or stability) is subjective depending on the individual. In other words, "what feels stable to you, may not feel stable to me and vice versa".

Now for "chop". When water conditions get choppy, I'm more comfortable with a board with less thickness and a lower volume of liters in the board in conjunction with my physical weight because I want to be closer to the waterline on the rails. It makes it easier to paddle (for me) and I feel stable on a board in these water conditions with the parameters I have given.

But, many times a production made board won't have both criteria for my liking. Then I have to compromise. So I will choose a slightly thicker board if I can get a lower volume of liters in a board with thinned out rails. This is why I chose the parameters for my custom One World.

My One World is the board I will paddle and the guest will be paddling the "guest board" in whatever sup I choose for I want think the guest will be best suited for. And this "guess" is a calculated and educated guess.

[Night Wing]

My second board was a 2013 174 liter Starboard Blend which I had for a few years. I never liked the way it surfed, mostly because of the parallel rails.

Ever since then I've avoided longboard shapes and have always gone with a curved outline no matter what the length because they are so much easier to turn.

But the Blend you owned was built with 3 fin boxes. If your Blend would have had 5 fin boxes, I think you "might" have liked the way it surfed if you could have surfed your Blend with a 4 fin quad setup.

This is why I am a big fan of a long (close to 11') board with 5 fin boxes, thinned out rails with a pulled in nose and a pintail.

[Badger]

I doubt that a quad set up would help the Blend.

The Wide Point is a much better shape than the Blend IMO.

[southwesterly]

Nothing scientific, but my "gut feeling" tells me this board felt corky to me was because the 198 liters of volume is just too much volume for my 146 lb physical weight. For me, it felt like "trying to stand and balance on a round ball".

Since this is a "guest" board, what happens if your guest weighs more than 146 pounds?

[Night Wing]

Nothing scientific, but my "gut feeling" tells me this board felt corky to me was because the 198 liters of volume is just too much volume for my 146 lb physical weight. For me, it felt like "trying to stand and balance on a round ball".

Since this is a "guest" board, what happens if your guest weighs more than 146 pounds?

Go back to Page 2 in this topic thread and read Reply #20 on: April 22, 2019, 10:58:53 AM, which is my post and you'll have your answer where I mentioned the physical weight range of my friends.

[Area 10]

Nothing scientific, but my "gut feeling" tells me this board felt corky to me was because the 198 liters of volume is just too much volume for my 146 lb physical weight. For me, it felt like "trying to stand and balance on a round ball".

Since this is a "guest" board, what happens if your guest weighs more than 146 pounds?

Go back to Page 2 in this topic thread and read Reply #20 on: April 22, 2019, 10:58:53 AM, which is my post and you'll have your answer where I mentioned the physical weight range of my friends.

I’m puzzled, Night Wing. It seems like you have an extremely detailed idea of what you want and what you feel would be right for you. So why ask us?

[Badger]

I'm puzzled by "physical weight".   

[Bean]

Oh, thats easy Badger, between 175-190...

[Badger]

Lol, I understand that part. It's the phrase he uses that has always made me wonder. "Physical weight" as opposed to what?   

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[Dusk Patrol]

The gravitas brought by the guest    

[NorthJerzSurfer]

Luckily i leave my 'emotional weight' on land before I surf, if I didnt I'd need a 500L board 

[Dusk Patrol]

Baggage weight limit! 

[Bean]

Carrion baggage is often subject to both physical and emotional weight...

[Night Wing]

Nothing scientific, but my "gut feeling" tells me this board felt corky to me was because the 198 liters of volume is just too much volume for my 146 lb physical weight. For me, it felt like "trying to stand and balance on a round ball".

Since this is a "guest" board, what happens if your guest weighs more than 146 pounds?

Go back to Page 2 in this topic thread and read Reply #20 on: April 22, 2019, 10:58:53 AM, which is my post and you'll have your answer where I mentioned the physical weight range of my friends.

I’m puzzled, Night Wing. It seems like you have an extremely detailed idea of what you want and what you feel would be right for you. So why ask us?

1) You're puzzled? I'm not.

2) And this topic thread isn't about me. It's about a guest board for some of my friends where some of them are "balanced challenged" so trying to choose a board they "all" can ride and enjoy is the first priority.

3) When I take a guest for a flat water paddle on Lake Conroe or Lake Woodlands or even sup surfing down at Surfside; if the guest board works for them where they enjoy flat water paddling and sup surfing, if by chance the guest board also works for me as well where I enjoy it, then that is an added bonus for me.

4) And why ask us? I like getting opinions and I'll analyze the info I get, but it still comes down to me when it comes to making the final choice.

5) Lastly, there are unregistered lurkers on this site and they're looking for info on standup paddling. So topic threads like this one just might help them out. I was a unregistered lurker on the Zoner site for awhile and then I decided to register to become a member because the info on various paddling topics helped me out.